Surface Trough and ULL north of NE Caribbean Islands
Moderator: S2k Moderators
Forum rules
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service.
- northjaxpro
- S2K Supporter
- Posts: 8900
- Joined: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:21 am
- Location: Jacksonville, FL
Surface Trough and ULL north of NE Caribbean Islands
I am currently not in access to my normal computer applications as I am not able to post the graphics at this time. I know most on the forums are focused on the developments of 99L, and what is going on with what looks like soon to be major Hurricane Gaston.
But I have been monitoring the surface trough down near the Virgin Islands near 24 N and.62 W. The trough axis lies just to the southeast of that large cut-off Upper Low centered near 21N. 61.W.
Convection has built up gradually along that surface trough axis over the past 24 hours. I am only mentioning this as an area of interest. Now, to strongly emphasize I am not anticipating development at this time. Plus the surface trough is also interacting with the large ULL just to its northwest this morning. These type of interactions take time to develop. But, it is something to watch out there nonetheless. Remember, Joaquin formed from a similar ULL and surface trough interaction last October.
But I have been monitoring the surface trough down near the Virgin Islands near 24 N and.62 W. The trough axis lies just to the southeast of that large cut-off Upper Low centered near 21N. 61.W.
Convection has built up gradually along that surface trough axis over the past 24 hours. I am only mentioning this as an area of interest. Now, to strongly emphasize I am not anticipating development at this time. Plus the surface trough is also interacting with the large ULL just to its northwest this morning. These type of interactions take time to develop. But, it is something to watch out there nonetheless. Remember, Joaquin formed from a similar ULL and surface trough interaction last October.
Last edited by northjaxpro on Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:35 am, edited 4 times in total.
0 likes
NEVER, EVER SAY NEVER in the tropics and weather in general, and most importantly, with life itself!!
________________________________________________________________________________________
Fay 2008 Beryl 2012 Debby 2012 Colin 2016 Hermine 2016 Julia 2016 Matthew 2016 Irma 2017 Dorian 2019
________________________________________________________________________________________
Fay 2008 Beryl 2012 Debby 2012 Colin 2016 Hermine 2016 Julia 2016 Matthew 2016 Irma 2017 Dorian 2019
-
- Admin
- Posts: 20009
- Age: 62
- Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:23 pm
- Location: Florence, KY (name is Mark)
Re: Surface Trough near Virgin Islands approx 24N 62W
0 likes
M a r k
- - - - -
Join us in chat: Storm2K Chatroom Invite. Android and IOS apps also available.
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. Posts are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K.org. For official information and forecasts, please refer to NHC and NWS products.
- - - - -
Join us in chat: Storm2K Chatroom Invite. Android and IOS apps also available.
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. Posts are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K.org. For official information and forecasts, please refer to NHC and NWS products.
-
- Category 5
- Posts: 3755
- Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 10:16 pm
- Location: miami fl
Re: Surface Trough near Virgin Islands approx 24N 62W
this look better and 99l tell you ture
0 likes
- northjaxpro
- S2K Supporter
- Posts: 8900
- Joined: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:21 am
- Location: Jacksonville, FL
Re: Surface Trough near Virgin Islands approx 24N 62W
This area of interest is looking more intriguing I agree with you floridasun. I have been observing this area and I always find these surface trough/upper level low interactions to be interesting. There is quite of bit of convection with area and I feel that if the convection continues or sustains itself, these type of interaction needs to be watched. Now, although they don't occur often to bring ULL features to the surface, we all know what happened to spawn Joaquin.
0 likes
NEVER, EVER SAY NEVER in the tropics and weather in general, and most importantly, with life itself!!
________________________________________________________________________________________
Fay 2008 Beryl 2012 Debby 2012 Colin 2016 Hermine 2016 Julia 2016 Matthew 2016 Irma 2017 Dorian 2019
________________________________________________________________________________________
Fay 2008 Beryl 2012 Debby 2012 Colin 2016 Hermine 2016 Julia 2016 Matthew 2016 Irma 2017 Dorian 2019
- gatorcane
- S2K Supporter
- Posts: 23691
- Age: 47
- Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:54 pm
- Location: Boca Raton, FL
Re: Surface Trough near Virgin Islands approx 24N 62W
Looking pretty good, I will admit. Models are notorious for missing ULL to genesis transitions. Saved loop showing the system a little north of the Lesser Antilles.


0 likes
-
- Category 5
- Posts: 4030
- Age: 29
- Joined: Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:16 pm
- Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
Re: Surface Trough near Virgin Islands approx 24N 62W
Wow, convection is increasing pretty quickly. I wonder if it will be an invest.
0 likes
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the NHC and NWS.
Model Runs Cheat Sheet:
GFS (5:30 AM/PM, 11:30 AM/PM)
HWRF, GFDL, UKMET, NAVGEM (6:30-8:00 AM/PM, 12:30-2:00 AM/PM)
ECMWF (1:45 AM/PM)
TCVN is a weighted averaged
- northjaxpro
- S2K Supporter
- Posts: 8900
- Joined: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:21 am
- Location: Jacksonville, FL
Re: Surface Trough near Virgin Islands approx 24N 62W
AutoPenalti wrote:Wow, convection is increasing pretty quickly. I wonder if it will be an invest.
Well, if the trend with the convection continues and we start seeing pressure falls down into the region of the extreme NE Caribbean Islands along that trough axis, I say there possibly could be a possible invest in the next day or so down in the area. The ULL interacting with the trough itself is just north/northwest of that.
0 likes
NEVER, EVER SAY NEVER in the tropics and weather in general, and most importantly, with life itself!!
________________________________________________________________________________________
Fay 2008 Beryl 2012 Debby 2012 Colin 2016 Hermine 2016 Julia 2016 Matthew 2016 Irma 2017 Dorian 2019
________________________________________________________________________________________
Fay 2008 Beryl 2012 Debby 2012 Colin 2016 Hermine 2016 Julia 2016 Matthew 2016 Irma 2017 Dorian 2019
-
- Admin
- Posts: 20009
- Age: 62
- Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:23 pm
- Location: Florence, KY (name is Mark)
Re: Surface Trough near Virgin Islands approx 24N 62W
Sure looks like convection firing more towards the center.
loop, moved a bit
http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-E%20HURRICANE&lat=21&lon=-63&info=vis&zoom=2&width=1024&height=768&type=Animation&quality=92&palette=ir1.pal&numframes=7&mapcolor=gray
loop, moved a bit
http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-E%20HURRICANE&lat=21&lon=-63&info=vis&zoom=2&width=1024&height=768&type=Animation&quality=92&palette=ir1.pal&numframes=7&mapcolor=gray
1 likes
M a r k
- - - - -
Join us in chat: Storm2K Chatroom Invite. Android and IOS apps also available.
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. Posts are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K.org. For official information and forecasts, please refer to NHC and NWS products.
- - - - -
Join us in chat: Storm2K Chatroom Invite. Android and IOS apps also available.
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. Posts are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K.org. For official information and forecasts, please refer to NHC and NWS products.
- northjaxpro
- S2K Supporter
- Posts: 8900
- Joined: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:21 am
- Location: Jacksonville, FL
Re: Surface Trough near Virgin Islands approx 24N 62W
tolakram wrote:Sure looks like convection firing more towards the center.
loop, moved a bit
http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-E%20HURRICANE&lat=21&lon=-63&info=vis&zoom=2&width=1024&height=768&type=Animation&quality=92&palette=ir1.pal&numframes=7&mapcolor=gray
Tolakram, convection is beginning to occur around the ULL center. Lots going on with the interaction of the ULL and surface trough down here. Very interesting down there this afternoon.
0 likes
NEVER, EVER SAY NEVER in the tropics and weather in general, and most importantly, with life itself!!
________________________________________________________________________________________
Fay 2008 Beryl 2012 Debby 2012 Colin 2016 Hermine 2016 Julia 2016 Matthew 2016 Irma 2017 Dorian 2019
________________________________________________________________________________________
Fay 2008 Beryl 2012 Debby 2012 Colin 2016 Hermine 2016 Julia 2016 Matthew 2016 Irma 2017 Dorian 2019
- northjaxpro
- S2K Supporter
- Posts: 8900
- Joined: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:21 am
- Location: Jacksonville, FL
Re: Surface Trough near Virgin Islands approx 24N 62W
I know everyone is riveted to 99L, soon to be upgraded finally to TD9. But, this area maybe soon our next invest area. Convection is continuing to increase and I have to think if the trends continue, NHC may have to start mentioning this feature much more as time progresses. Tropics are really popping right now!!
1 likes
NEVER, EVER SAY NEVER in the tropics and weather in general, and most importantly, with life itself!!
________________________________________________________________________________________
Fay 2008 Beryl 2012 Debby 2012 Colin 2016 Hermine 2016 Julia 2016 Matthew 2016 Irma 2017 Dorian 2019
________________________________________________________________________________________
Fay 2008 Beryl 2012 Debby 2012 Colin 2016 Hermine 2016 Julia 2016 Matthew 2016 Irma 2017 Dorian 2019
-
- Category 5
- Posts: 3755
- Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 10:16 pm
- Location: miami fl
Re: Surface Trough near Virgin Islands approx 24N 62W
i think nhc may wait longer call it invest because it ull
0 likes
-
- Category 5
- Posts: 4030
- Age: 29
- Joined: Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:16 pm
- Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
Re: Surface Trough near Virgin Islands approx 24N 62W
Weird, no models detect it. What's the steering pattern like for this trough?
0 likes
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the NHC and NWS.
Model Runs Cheat Sheet:
GFS (5:30 AM/PM, 11:30 AM/PM)
HWRF, GFDL, UKMET, NAVGEM (6:30-8:00 AM/PM, 12:30-2:00 AM/PM)
ECMWF (1:45 AM/PM)
TCVN is a weighted averaged
-
- Category 5
- Posts: 3755
- Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 10:16 pm
- Location: miami fl
Re: Surface Trough near Virgin Islands approx 24N 62W
AutoPenalti wrote:Weird, no models detect it. What's the steering pattern like for this trough?
look moving due west
0 likes
- Kazmit
- Category 5
- Posts: 2124
- Age: 22
- Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:49 am
- Location: Williamsburg, VA / Bermuda
Re: Surface Trough near Virgin Islands approx 24N 62W
Wow, the Atlantic is exploding with activity. We have TD 8, TD 9, Gaston, 91L, the African AOI, and now this. I think it could be tagged as an invest in the coming days, and it is something to keep an eye on, because powerful storms can form from these troughs, providing the conditions are right, as we've seen with Joaquin. 

1 likes
Igor 2010, Sandy 2012, Fay 2014, Gonzalo 2014, Joaquin 2015, Nicole 2016, Humberto 2019
I am only a tropical weather enthusiast. My predictions are not official and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.
I am only a tropical weather enthusiast. My predictions are not official and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.
-
- Category 5
- Posts: 3755
- Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 10:16 pm
- Location: miami fl
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: AnnularCane, Google Adsense [Bot], hurricanes1234, MarioProtVI, StormWeather and 43 guests