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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#921 Postby Texas Snowman » Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:35 pm

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There are very few and far in between.



OK. Metal is very common here. I did mine a few years ago. I was hoping to hear real-life experiences that they were only dented and not penetrated like shingle roofs.


My parents in Alabama have a metal roof but I honestly cannot even remember if I've seen one out here...


After a big hail storm up here in Grayson County a number of years ago, my father-in-law put a metal roof on his house. And now my sister-in-law has one too.
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#922 Postby Texas Snowman » Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:38 pm

Ntxw wrote:
WeatherGuesser wrote:OK. Metal is very common here. I did mine a few years ago. I was hoping to hear real-life experiences that they were only dented and not penetrated like shingle roofs.


I would assume a metal roof would be dented extensively though. If you've been through a hailstorm and look at a car the dents are many. For every dent seen visibility from a short distance there is probably 5 more around it that you have too look close. Just take a look at a car that's been hit. The chunk expense in a vehicle is not so much the big holes but the many little ones that it would be cheaper just to replace the entire sheet. Even the more common egg to golfball hail would cost $ on a metal roof.


Actually, they are hardier than you might think...

http://www.metalroofing.com/v2/forums/i ... egoryID=49
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#923 Postby WeatherGuesser » Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:39 pm

Ntxw wrote:
WeatherGuesser wrote:OK. Metal is very common here. I did mine a few years ago. I was hoping to hear real-life experiences that they were only dented and not penetrated like shingle roofs.


I would assume a metal roof would be dented extensively though. If you've been through a hailstorm and look at a car the dents are many. For every dent seen visibility from a short distance there is probably 5 more around it that you have too look close. Just take a look at a car that's been hit. The chunk expense in a vehicle is not so much the big holes but the many little ones that it would be cheaper just to replace the entire sheet. Even the more common egg to golfball hail would cost $ on a metal roof.


What I'm getting at is the additional structural damage and water damage from leaking; fallen interior ceilings, etc. It's far easier to replace a roof panel or twenty that to have to strip everything off and replace roof decking and drywall.
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#924 Postby Brent » Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:29 pm

Jarodm12 wrote:Anyone know the threat level for wylie in collin country on tuesday it appears the nam hi res at 60hrs so 12am wednesday shows storms that have formed out infront of the squall line? is this accurate? can someone give an analysis?


I don't think it's any worse than anywhere else in the metro... I don't doubt there might be a few cells out ahead of the line, but they will likely be very isolated and the small scale features that feed those won't be known til the event is underway... heck... I never would have guessed one storm that started up near Wichita Falls would cause the softball sized hail here on April 11th until it was happening but it did because of a perfectly placed boundary which is usually what isolated cells follow... so we'll just have to wait and see.

Basically... watch out for outflow boundaries... also how the 2012 Dallas tornadoes happened
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#925 Postby Ntxw » Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:33 pm

Yeah those outflow boundaries always throws a wrench in things. This week's set up is a bit different though. Storms will be more rooted at the surface so they are dangerous supercells with rotation. 3000-4000 j/kg will be monster hail and some tornadoes. Will be luck where they fire and head in a general northeast direction. The last couple of rounds the dryline did little, might not be the case this time.
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#926 Postby EF-5bigj » Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:30 pm

The setup is insanely unstable this time when storms go they will GO! :eek:
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#927 Postby Ntxw » Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:07 pm

Yeah if they go. Still though we have to keep some expectations calmed. This isn't the sure fire high risk tornado/severe days where factors come together perfectly. The cap can still hold and there are other factors that may negate a large outbreak. Storms may cluster quick enough to be linear mode as well.
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#928 Postby EF-5bigj » Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:12 pm

I hope it doesn't go high risk actually we will know more on Monday I suppose.
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#929 Postby EF-5bigj » Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:09 am

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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#930 Postby Ntxw » Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:03 am

Lake Travis' Mansfield dam opens its flood gates first time in 9 years officially. Being nearly 4 ft above conservation. We live to see that day again :lol:
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#931 Postby Tireman4 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:29 am

Ntxw wrote:Lake Travis' Mansfield dam opens its flood gates first time in 9 years officially. Being nearly 4 ft above conservation. We live to see that day again :lol:


Wow, after 2011..who would have thunk it...
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#932 Postby Jarodm12 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:56 am

:double:

How about these models the wrf ttu model and the nam hi res seems to show explosive development right over DFW tomorrow.. I'm surprised the moderate risk is so far up north all the models seem to be showing the most activity in north Texas, what's that about?
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#933 Postby Tireman4 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:19 am

Well, I am not a met, but this is an ever changing situation. The even is still a day away, so I would continue to monitor the situation.
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#934 Postby Brent » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:32 am

Jarodm12 wrote::double:

How about these models the wrf ttu model and the nam hi res seems to show explosive development right over DFW tomorrow.. I'm surprised the moderate risk is so far up north all the models seem to be showing the most activity in north Texas, what's that about?


The models are not in agreement on the explosive development from what I've seen... we'll just have to wait and see. I think there's a realistic chance it's just a squall line in DFW, the better tornado dynamics are further north where the MDT is.
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#935 Postby katheria » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:47 am

Blah we dont need anymore large hail...
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#936 Postby TheProfessor » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:51 am

Brent wrote:
Jarodm12 wrote::double:

How about these models the wrf ttu model and the nam hi res seems to show explosive development right over DFW tomorrow.. I'm surprised the moderate risk is so far up north all the models seem to be showing the most activity in north Texas, what's that about?


The models are not in agreement on the explosive development from what I've seen... we'll just have to wait and see. I think there's a realistic chance it's just a squall line in DFW, the better tornado dynamics are further north where the MDT is.


I would not be surprised if they extended the MDT further south tomorrow for hail. The main concern it the CAP not breaking further south and so the confidence is not as high. If they see the CAP break later in the day I think the MDT will get extended southward.
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#937 Postby Ntxw » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:09 am

Hrrr the past couple of runs have tried to punch a storm or two and track them near the I-20 corridor. Its been known to be overzealous with the dryline this season, but if that happens then we could see a lone supercell late this afternoon with wind and big hail. Big if though, strong cap
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#938 Postby Brent » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:15 am

katheria wrote:Blah we dont need anymore large hail...


I agree with that... still so many signs of the last hail here.
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#939 Postby katheria » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:28 am

Brent wrote:
katheria wrote:Blah we dont need anymore large hail...


I agree with that... still so many signs of the last hail here.

Yep brent way too much, friends car lot got hit 16 cars and her house...not fun....
Another friend aunts house took a direct hit
We were lucky im just down 78 by firewheel
Im still dealing with the hail claims...i work at sf
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#940 Postby Brent » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:48 am

katheria wrote:
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katheria wrote:Blah we dont need anymore large hail...


I agree with that... still so many signs of the last hail here.

Yep brent way too much, friends car lot got hit 16 cars and her house...not fun....
Another friend aunts house took a direct hit
We were lucky im just down 78 by firewheel
Im still dealing with the hail claims...i work at sf


It's been unreal really... I live on the east side of Wylie which was the hardest hit and you can't go anywhere without seeing signs of it. Everyone I talk to has a story from it... virtually every house/yard has a tarp somewhere. There's been some improvement with the sunny weather this weekend, but it's still pretty obvious. I've been to several businesses on 78 with north facing windows that still have hail damage on the windows.
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