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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#441 Postby Brent » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:09 pm

wxman57 wrote:This is a heck of a way to run a "spring". Fortunately, we can't trust the GFS that far out. I'm sure the actual temps will be up into the mid 80s or higher. ;-)


It's sure been consistent with a cold snap around the 1st of April... :P

CPC hinting at it too

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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#442 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:26 pm

Heat miser sure is glad its not January with this pattern in place. We knew it was coming at some point. Could be like this for a while. Whats the major diferrence? HP in the pacific in a different position?


Made it down to 39F here in Sugar Land. We had two days in a row of very heavy winds. My new weather station location is now 21 ft in the air. I have a clear shot to all sides except a west wind now with no interruption. Yesterday i had a 38 MPH gust on the station. Nice to see much more accurate data.
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#443 Postby Brent » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:55 pm

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:Heat miser sure is glad its not January with this pattern in place. We knew it was coming at some point.


Exactly... wxman57 had his winter... the pattern had to flip eventually.

Here's to a less hot summer. :grrr:

The 12z Euro has some rain and highs in the mid 60s on Easter followed by upper 30s at DFW next Monday and Tuesday, and around 40 next Wednesday with highs in the mid/upper 50s Mon/Tue and low 60s Wed as far out as the run goes
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#444 Postby wxman57 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:27 pm

Next weekend looks a lot warmer, anyway. By tomorrow it may be warm enough for an after-work bike ride. It's nowhere CLOSE to warm enough today.
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#445 Postby Texas Snowman » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:08 pm

:uarrow:

Hey, after all of your Heat Miser dog piling this winter, we were thinking of you today up here in North Texas. You know, as you had to endure this springtime cold snap.

Feel the love? :D

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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#446 Postby Ntxw » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:04 pm

This severe -EPO should've shown up a month sooner for the backloaded winter!. No less it's going to give gardeners a scare. May not seem impressive cold aloft but the EPO usually drills surface cold and that's typically stingy.

Right now though the models aren't seeing 1040+ surface HP (if one does show up). If we do start seeing it though, definitely threat of late freezes. Only a handful of times has a pattern shaping up occurred early April.
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#447 Postby wxman57 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:27 am

Texas Snowman wrote::uarrow:

Hey, after all of your Heat Miser dog piling this winter, we were thinking of you today up here in North Texas. You know, as you had to endure this springtime cold snap.

Feel the love? :D

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Enjoy the dying breaths of winter over the next couple of weeks. I'm stoking the furnace for a nice, hot summer. :firedevil:
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#448 Postby Ntxw » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:32 am

Some guidance are really tanking the EPO. Any coincidence with the collapsing El Nino now heading for moderate territory? If only the collapse happened sooner...
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#449 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:43 pm

Yep, the heights are much further west in the Pacific now powering up an Aleutian low and not a GOA low.
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#450 Postby Lagreeneyes03 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:03 am

Ntxw wrote:This severe -EPO should've shown up a month sooner for the backloaded winter!. No less it's going to give gardeners a scare. May not seem impressive cold aloft but the EPO usually drills surface cold and that's typically stingy.

Right now though the models aren't seeing 1040+ surface HP (if one does show up). If we do start seeing it though, definitely threat of late freezes. Only a handful of times has a pattern shaping up occurred early April.


Will this kill the bluebonnets that are now starting to be in full force in NTX?
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#451 Postby Ntxw » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:55 am

They may survive a frost or light freeze but not if it is prolonged. Some guidance are bent on a pretty impressive buckling of the east pacific oscillation. While 30s and near freeze may not seem to bad, but in early April climo thats near record lows.
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#452 Postby Texas Snowman » Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:29 am

From Steve McCauley on Facebook:

"The stage is being set across parts of north Texas for strong to severe thunderstorms that will fire Wednesday evening as an upper-level disturbance and dryline combine forces to see if they can punch their way through the cap now developing over our area.

A potent dryline will be moving into the Metroplex by Wednesday afternoon and will separate north Texas in half. To the west of the dryline, desert dry air will be pouring in from west Texas. To the east of the dryline, warm, moist air will be flowing up from the Gulf of Mexico leading to very unstable atmospheric conditions across the eastern half of north Texas.

The boundary where these two opposing air masses will collide is the dryline, and it will be moving west-to-east across the Metroplex by late in the day. Now the question becomes: Will the dryline and upper-level disturbance be strong enough to overcome and punch their way through the cap and allow severe thunderstorms to fire?

The answer appears to be YES. This is particularly likely for areas east of the I-35 Corridor. So residents across the eastern half of north Texas should be on the lookout for severe weather by Wednesday evening (after 6 PM) including the threats from hail, high winds, and tornadoes.

At this time, it does appear the cap will be breakable, so unlike last week when the cap held and prevented severe weather from happening, we may not have such luck this time.

Stay tuned ..."
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#453 Postby Ntxw » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:19 am

Large hail would be biggest threat this evening should storms fire
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#454 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:42 am

Looks like DFW is back within the slight risk area this afternoon/evening per the latest SPC outlook. HRRR shows a broken line of strong thunderstorms forming north and west of the immediate metro area and then swinging through. NAM 4k looks similar but just a bit further east when thunderstorms start firing.
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#455 Postby EF-5bigj » Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:17 pm

You think Texas will have a watch coming?
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#456 Postby dhweather » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:54 pm

EF-5bigj wrote:Looks like a tornado watch is forthcoming.
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md0252.html


In Iowa, not Texas.
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#457 Postby EF-5bigj » Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:02 pm

lol sorry I'll change that :cheesy:
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#458 Postby ColdFusion » Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:35 pm

Another DFW met chiming in on facebook
News 8 Pete Delkus

Risk of severe storms includes the entire Dallas/Fort Worth area this evening! The "Cap" is weak and breakable which may lead to severe storm development after 6pm in the Metroplex and possibly earlier to the west and north of the DFW area. If storms do develop that may quickly turn severe with large hail, damaging straight line winds and even isolated tornadoes.
We'll be watching locations to the west and north of the DFW area for initial development with storms congealing into a solid line mid to late evening and then exiting North Texas after 3am.


and Steves latest update:

The cap continues to hold across north Texas, shutting down thunderstorm formation for the time being. But as mentioned last night, the cap will likely break leading to rapid thunderstorm development, some likely will be severe with hail, high winds, and possible tornado activity. The greatest - but perhaps not only - threat for severe weather will be east of a line from Gainesville to Granbury.
We will need to watch the first storms that pop to our immediate north and west...
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#459 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:25 pm

Initiation has occured along the dryline at the Red River
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Re: Texas Spring 2016

#460 Postby Ntxw » Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:03 pm

Line will fill in pretty quick next hour or two. Watch is coming for I-35 corridor

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