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#2661 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:29 pm

It also looks like Erika is in a lake valley between two mountain ranges. It's pretty flat there until it emerges back over the ocean.
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#2662 Postby ozonepete » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:29 pm

drewschmaltz wrote:
bamajammer4eva wrote:I would think that hole in the middle is nothing but a mountain peak and the convection is all being forced around it rather than being a sign of organization. Kind of like if you have a pile of dirt in the middle of a plate and pour water in the plate water will go everywhere but that pile of dirt.


Can that sort of land interaction create a vortex?


No. There's too much other dynamics involved. It could allow a mid-level vortex to maintain itself, but that's not likely happening here.
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#2663 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:31 pm

:uarrow: There is NO WAY Erika is organized as well as microwave shows it.
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#2664 Postby drewschmaltz » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:32 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:It also looks like Erika is in a lake valley between two mountain ranges. It's pretty flat there until it emerges back over the ocean.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... la_lrg.jpg

I was just looking at that...
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#2665 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:32 pm

I have a feeling Enriquillo Lake and the valley there is helping to tighten up the storm and the lake waters are being used to maintain its intensity.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2666 Postby tatertawt24 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:33 pm

Yeah, I'd say the microwave presentation is some kind of illusion. If it is an eyewall it's the most sudden eyewall I've ever seen develop. :lol:
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#2667 Postby hurricanekid416 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:33 pm

Can microwave lie like that?
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#2668 Postby drezee » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:35 pm

That not a COC, that is just the structure of the thunderstorms. Just a picture in time...no more no less. Not a eyeWall or anything
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#2669 Postby CronkPSU » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:35 pm

hurricanekid416 wrote:Can microwave lie like that?


Obviously it must...otherwise that 11PM discussion is going to be epic
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#2670 Postby ozonepete » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:36 pm

TheStormExpert wrote::uarrow: There is NO WAY Erika is organized as well as microwave shows it.


Why not? The mid-level circulation of TC's often maintains itself quite well when passing over mountainous terrain. It's just that in most cases, due to higher clouds obscuring the mid-levels, we can't see the robust mid-level circulation riding along untouched as the mountains annihilate the LLC or LLCs. that's why the NHC says to focus on the mid-level swirl.
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#2671 Postby psyclone » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:36 pm

Well it looks nice if it were just spinning around that center point. if the winds are light you know it's just an illusion of organization. do we get any weather data from here that's current?
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2672 Postby drewschmaltz » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:36 pm

Even if it isn't a COC, isn't it a lot of convection south of where NHC just fixed a COC?
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#2673 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:36 pm

I'm sure that's just a gap of convention. No way she has developed an eyewall overland.
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#2674 Postby floridasun78 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:36 pm

spiral wrote:Image

Image

That depicts almost a closed eyewall.

maybe vorticity did make better and we think because want over big mountain still their
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#2675 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:36 pm

The temperatures of Lake Enriquillo are about 29C, as warm as tropical oceans. It might be playing some role...and that region is mostly wetlands, near or below sea level.

http://www.eoearth.org/view/article/152568/
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#2676 Postby ozonepete » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:37 pm

drezee wrote:That not a COC, that is just the structure of the thunderstorms. Just a picture in time...no more no less. Not a eyeWall or anything


It is very clearly a COC at mid to upper levels. Otherwise our microwave satellites are useless. :)
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#2677 Postby psyclone » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:37 pm

drezee wrote:That not a COC, that is just the structure of the thunderstorms. Just a picture in time...no more no less. Not a eyeWall or anything

yes. otherwise this would be the most awesome 1007mb or so landfallen TC ever
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#2678 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:38 pm

Just because it looks like an eyewall doesn't mean it is an eyewall.









Wait...
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2679 Postby tailgater » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:40 pm

Surface reports conclude it is NOT at the surface
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#2680 Postby hurricanekid416 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:41 pm

Thats a very vigorous mid level circulation
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