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#341 Postby Bocadude85 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:23 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Well, most major canes that I've seen these past couple of seasons have been nothing but fishes. I really wonder what causes these magic troughs.

I feel like it's such a meer coincidence that it's there just in time to scoop up a storm with such high caliber.


The 12z Euro and the 18z GFS moves 98l into South Florida. Not sure where you see a recurve?
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#342 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:27 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
gatorcane wrote:How the 18Z HWRF ends, about 7MB higher pressure than the 12Z :eek:

http://i.imgur.com/E5VPvGY.png

Door open for a recurve?
http://i.imgur.com/gyDNUSw.png

When I played the loop it looked like the ridge was building in.


Yeah I see that too, but can't tell for sure. The run stops too soon.

SFLcane wrote:Gatorcane and there is your MAGICAL DOOR! Well see but iam still betting this recurves.


Not sure though with that HWRF run what that ridge is going to do had the run gone out farther.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#343 Postby BigB0882 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:28 pm

The door certainly looks open but without seeing the next few frames it is impossible to know if the high is building in or not.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#344 Postby SFLcane » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:29 pm

Sure is open there but well see
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#345 Postby Siker » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:33 pm

JB claims in his latest post that the pattern on that HWRF run would cause the storm to head straight west from there.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#346 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:35 pm

Siker wrote:JB claims in his latest post that the pattern on that HWRF run would cause the storm to head straight west from there.


Is he talking about the 18Z HWRF run or perhaps the 12Z run?
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#347 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:37 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:Well, most major canes that I've seen these past couple of seasons have been nothing but fishes. I really wonder what causes these magic troughs.

I feel like it's such a meer coincidence that it's there just in time to scoop up a storm with such high caliber.


The 12z Euro and the 18z GFS moves 98l into South Florida. Not sure where you see a recurve?

No, not talking about this in specific just in general what causes this magic trough to appear just in time.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#348 Postby hurrtracker79 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:37 pm

18Z
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#349 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:38 pm

The 18Z HWRF is pumping up the ridge it seems with that kind of outflow. Look at that, dual outflow channels, Yowza.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#350 Postby Siker » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:40 pm

Yeah, he's talking about the 18z.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#351 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:57 pm

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                    * ATLANTIC     SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST          *
                    * IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE,       OHC AVAILABLE     *
                    *  INVEST      AL982015  08/25/15  00 UTC        *

TIME (HR)          0     6    12    18    24    36    48    60    72    84    96   108   120
V (KT) NO LAND    40    43    47    50    52    57    61    62    65    65    66    67    69
V (KT) LAND       40    43    47    50    52    57    61    62    65    65    66    67    69
V (KT) LGE mod    40    43    46    49    52    59    64    68    72    74    77    80    84
Storm Type      TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP

SHEAR (KT)         9    10    13    12     8    14    12    16    14    19    16    18    15
SHEAR ADJ (KT)     2     0    -5    -4     1    -2     1    -1     0    -1     0    -3    -3
SHEAR DIR         26     7   347   345   317   308   288   290   289   304   277   300   302
SST (C)         27.5  27.5  27.4  27.4  27.6  28.1  28.3  28.5  28.6  28.6  28.8  29.1  29.3
POT. INT. (KT)   133   132   131   131   134   140   142   145   147   147   149   153   155
ADJ. POT. INT.   134   133   131   130   133   139   140   141   142   142   140   139   138
200 MB T (C)   -52.9 -53.1 -53.2 -52.9 -52.9 -53.1 -52.9 -53.1 -52.8 -53.2 -52.7 -53.1 -52.7
TH_E DEV (C)       8     8     9    10    10    11    12    12    12    12    12    12    12
700-500 MB RH     63    63    63    61    60    59    56    56    56    58    58    59    63
MODEL VTX (KT)    16    16    16    15    13    13    13    11    10     7     7     5     6
850 MB ENV VOR    68    63    51    31    14    -3   -13   -24   -20   -15   -18   -43   -40
200 MB DIV        19    20     8    15     9    12     8   -16    -7     8    21    -1     8
700-850 TADV     -10    -9   -13   -18   -16    -4   -10    -4   -14    -5    -9   -11    -7
LAND (KM)       1213  1158  1113  1105  1001   789   669   365    73    84    62   167   242
LAT (DEG N)     14.4 xx.x  xx.x  xx.x  xx.x  xx.x  xx.x  xx.x  xx.x  xx.x  xx.x  xx.x  xx.x
LONG(DEG W)     46.9 xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x
STM SPEED (KT)    17    16    16    15    16    15    14    13    13    14    11     8     6
HEAT CONTENT      30    22    13    16    20    31    48    44    11    62    73    51    58

  FORECAST TRACK FROM OFPI      INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):275/ 18      CX,CY: -17/  2
  T-12 MAX WIND:  35            PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB):  476  (MEAN=624)
  GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV.  50-200 KM RAD:  22.7 (MEAN=14.5)
  % GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C    50-200 KM RAD:  59.0 (MEAN=65.0)

                        INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
                         6   12   18   24   36   48   60   72   84   96  108  120
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE     1.   2.   3.   4.   6.   8.   9.  11.  12.  12.  13.  14.
  SST POTENTIAL          1.   1.   2.   3.   6.   9.  13.  16.  18.  20.  21.  21.
  VERTICAL SHEAR MAG     0.   1.   2.   3.   4.   4.   4.   4.   2.   2.   1.   1.
  VERTICAL SHEAR ADJ     0.   0.   0.   0.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.
  VERTICAL SHEAR DIR     0.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.
  PERSISTENCE            1.   1.   2.   2.   2.   2.   1.   1.   1.   0.   0.   0.
  200/250 MB TEMP.       0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.
  THETA_E EXCESS         0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   1.   1.   2.   2.   2.
  700-500 MB RH          0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.
  MODEL VTX TENDENCY     0.   0.  -1.  -2.  -3.  -4.  -6.  -8. -10. -11. -12. -11.
  850 MB ENV VORTICITY   0.   0.   1.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -3.  -3.
  200 MB DIVERGENCE      0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.
  850-700 T ADVEC        0.   0.   0.   1.   1.   0.   0.   0.   0.   1.   1.   2.
  ZONAL STORM MOTION     0.   0.   1.   1.   2.   3.   3.   4.   4.   5.   6.   6.
  STEERING LEVEL PRES    0.   0.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.   2.   2.   2.   1.   1.
  DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.
  GOES PREDICTORS        0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.   0.  -1.
  OCEAN HEAT CONTENT     0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  TOTAL CHANGE           3.   7.  10.  12.  17.  21.  22.  25.  25.  26.  27.  29.

   ** 2013 ATLANTIC RI INDEX AL982015 INVEST     08/25/15  00 UTC **
           ( 30 KT OR MORE MAX WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24 HR)
 
 12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT):   5.0 Range:-49.5 to  33.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.7/  1.9
 850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) :  10.6 Range: 28.8 to   2.9 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.7/  0.8
 STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP :  22.7 Range: 37.5 to   2.9 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.4/  0.6
 850-700 MB REL HUM (%):  69.4 Range: 43.2 to  93.5 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.5/  0.6
 POT = MPI-VMAX (KT)   :  92.1 Range: 28.4 to 139.1 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.6/  0.4
 Heat content (KJ/cm2) :  20.2 Range:  0.0 to 155.1 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.1/  0.0
 D200 (10**7s-1)       :  14.2 Range:-23.1 to 181.5 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.2/  0.1
 % area w/pixels <-30 C:  48.0 Range: 15.3 to 100.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.4/  0.1
 
 Prob of RI for 25 kt RI threshold=    19% is   1.6 times the sample mean(11.9%)
 Prob of RI for 30 kt RI threshold=    11% is   1.5 times the sample mean( 7.6%)
 Prob of RI for 35 kt RI threshold=     6% is   1.3 times the sample mean( 4.6%)
 Prob of RI for 40 kt RI threshold=     5% is   1.7 times the sample mean( 3.0%)

   ##         ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) AL982015 INVEST     08/25/15  00 UTC         ##
   ## STORM NOT ANNULAR, SCREENING STEP FAILED, NPASS=4 NFAIL=3                          ##
   ## AHI=  0   (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##

** PROBLTY OF AT LEAST 1 SCNDRY EYEWL FORMTN EVENT AL982015 INVEST     08/25/2015  00 UTC **
TIME(HR)   0-12  12-24(0-24)  24-36(0-36)  36-48(0-48)
CLIMO(%)     0      0(  0)       0(  0)       0(  0)     <-- PROB BASED ON INTENSITY ONLY
PROB(%)      0      0(  0)       0(  0)       0(  0)     <-- FULL MODEL PROB (RAN NORMALLY)
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#352 Postby Weatherboy1 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:04 pm

Well after Danny went "poof" as some of the globals predicted, I have a hard time jumping on the idea of 98 posing a real threat (seeing as a couple globals don't do much with her either). I guess that makes this Floridian a "show me" state kind of guy here. Lol
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#353 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:07 pm

00z Track Guidance :darrow:

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00z Intensity Guidance :darrow:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#354 Postby ronjon » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:08 pm

SHIPS only slowly strengthens it thru 120 hours. Shear out of the west in double digits might have something to do with that.
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#355 Postby SFLcane » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:09 pm

Weatherboy1 wrote:Well after Danny went "poof" as some of the globals predicted, I have a hard time jumping on the idea of 98 posing a real threat (seeing as a couple globals don't do much with her either). I guess that makes this Floridian a "show me" state kind of guy here. Lol


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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#356 Postby Steve » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:13 pm

Thanks Southdadefish.
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Wondering the nature of that deep trough across the gulf. If it's splitting, not so good. If it's entrenched, better for us farther west.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#357 Postby SFLcane » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:20 pm

GFS ensembles...

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#358 Postby NCSTORMMAN » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:22 pm

SFLcane wrote:GFS ensembles...

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When I see that graphic I get the urge to eat fish. Think it is God telling me to go fishing and catch some panfish.
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#359 Postby SouthFLTropics » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:25 pm

Interesting to see the bulk of the ensembles different than the operational GFS.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#360 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:30 pm

NCSTORMMAN wrote:
SFLcane wrote:GFS ensembles...

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When I see that graphic I get the urge to eat fish. Think it is God telling me to go fishing and catch some panfish.

GFS is hungry for some fish.
I would expect an 11pm initializer? Anyone else?
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