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Re: Deep South Winterwx Discussion

#5421 Postby BigB0882 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:05 am

It looks like there are signs that the AO is finally going to go negative. It has been trending down and the models keep bringing it lower and lower. Might actually believe it, this time.
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Re: Deep South Winterwx Discussion

#5422 Postby hurricanehunter69 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:25 am

GFS at 216 hours. This seems to be trending in the right direction..http://www.twisterdata.com/i ... hive=false
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#5423 Postby BigB0882 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:29 am

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#5424 Postby BigB0882 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:44 am

The surface temps certainly don't support any snow but maybe those aren't to be taken literally at that far out?
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Re: Deep South Winterwx Discussion

#5425 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:45 am

hurricanehunter69 wrote:What is the over under on how many runs it will take for this to change and go away.....? http://www.twisterdata.com/index.php?pr ... hive=false



About the same chances of LSU winning the sec much less the national championship with Miles' latest ridiculous hire, even with Coach O. :cry:
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Re: Deep South Winterwx Discussion

#5426 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:48 am

Nah its just like the Euro showing ridiculous snow totals. Wxman said last week why the models do this. Pretty much not worth the paper they are printed out on.
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Re: Deep South Winterwx Discussion

#5427 Postby hurricanehunter69 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:51 am

At BigB0882.....thanx
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#5428 Postby SeGaBob » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:36 am

Now if we can just get rid of that ridge...
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Re: Deep South Winterwx Discussion

#5429 Postby BigB0882 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:19 pm

Wouldn't the AO going negative help get rid of the ridge?
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#5430 Postby SeGaBob » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:59 pm

I'm not sure... I'm not familiar with how that kind of stuff works. :(
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Re: Deep South Winterwx Discussion

#5431 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:19 pm

The why does the NWS and NHC put so much weight on them everyday when making their forecasts.....just asking?

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:Nah its just like the Euro showing ridiculous snow totals. Wxman said last week why the models do this. Pretty much not worth the paper they are printed out on.
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#5432 Postby BigB0882 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:23 pm

The Euro is usually quite good and the GFS as well, just not so much with showing snow totals. The algorithm is just way off for us down here in the south. However, the models are quite good at other things.
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Re: Deep South Winterwx Discussion

#5433 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:56 pm

Thats the word I was trying to think of, thanks B :wink:

But of course just like clockwork its all gone now anyway :lol:
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#5434 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:58 pm

Glancing quickly at the models, and if you are a EURO hugger, like most of us, things may get a bit interesting by the latter part of the upcoming week (Jan 22-23). EURO wants to deepen a longwave trough across the Eastern CONUS and that combined with potent shortwave energy in the southern branch of the jet moving out of the Four Corners area may spawn development of a Low Pressure area across the GOM and moves east-northeast toward the Southeast US coast by late Friday. The GFS however keeps the moisture and energy suppressed generally much farther south into the GOM in the late week time frame.

This is still 6 days out, but if the EURO comes close to verifying, there may be just enough cold air advecting down into the region with a deepening upper trough to combine with sufficient moisture the Low developing across the Northern GOM per EURO. This may possibly provide wintry precip in areas of the Deep South, mainly across northern portions of MS, AL, and GA. This is just something to keep an eye on in the next few days. The models are divergent currently, but I am watching if, and it is a considerable IF, phasing can occur next week. We should have a better idea by the end of this weekend on this end of next week scenario.
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Re: Deep South Winterwx Discussion

#5435 Postby hurricanehunter69 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:28 pm

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#5436 Postby BigB0882 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:34 pm

That would be some historic snow for the middle of the country all the way on up the Eastern seaboard. All of TN covered in a foot of snow.

The GFS has been showing brutal cold coming down to the Eastern half of the country late in the period so I am sure that is part of it. The snow this far south? Not buying it at all but it could be on to something with the cold and snow being in the Eastern part of the country, now. Who knows, get that brutal cold to filter down to us and lets pop a Gulf low? It's possible!

Edit: After looking at surface temps, the snow down near the coast is definitely impossible but I think there is indeed a Gulf low that forma and goes right on up the East coast. Am I seeing that right? Could be an insane Noreaster but this far out, we can only guess.
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#5437 Postby asd123 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:46 pm

BigB0882 wrote:That would be some historic snow for the middle of the country all the way on up the Eastern seaboard. All of TN covered in a foot of snow.

The GFS has been showing brutal cold coming down to the Eastern half of the country late in the period so I am sure that is part of it. The snow this far south? Not buying it at all but it could be on to something with the cold and snow being in the Eastern part of the country, now. Who knows, get that brutal cold to filter down to us and lets pop a Gulf low? It's possible!

Edit: After looking at surface temps, the snow down near the coast is definitely impossible but I think there is indeed a Gulf low that forma and goes right on up the East coast. Am I seeing that right? Could be an insane Noreaster but this far out, we can only guess.


Now that you've mentioned brutal cold, let me bring this up: http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-p ... F&hour=384 Coldest on the map is -55.6 degrees!!! Even some -50's showing up in northern Minnesota, and a pocket of -30s in NW PA :froze: :froze: :froze:

Many other previous runs have been showing this brutal cold with slight variation as to the southern push of the cold and strength. Past few runs Florida was even forecasted low 30s for lows.

Overall in about 10 days and beyond, I believe the eastern half of the US is in for some severe cold; this cold forecast has been moving closer and closer with each subsequent run.
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#5438 Postby SeGaBob » Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:11 pm

Are we still going to get cold or what? I haven't seen anyone post about it in the last couple of days. The Texans haven't mentioned it anymore either...

It's supposed to be close to 70 here tomorrow.
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#5439 Postby BigB0882 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:38 pm

From what I have gathered, the cold is going to stay bottled up more to the northeast but I don't know about over in Georgia. Someone else will have to chime in. I assume no news = no cold.
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#5440 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:20 pm

It's going to get very cold again. IMO


BigB0882 wrote:From what I have gathered, the cold is going to stay bottled up more to the northeast but I don't know about over in Georgia. Someone else will have to chime in. I assume no news = no cold.
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