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#1181 Postby Snowman67 » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:35 pm

I'm headed up to the Little Rock area on New Years Eve. What are the models showing for that area in the 12/31 - 1/2 time frame? Thanks.
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#1182 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:36 pm

Also, i think the High, if its that big, will bleed south regardless. May not bring all of the funk down but it will be strong.

Look at that dewpoint for IAH in the chart WXMan posted. Below zero. Goodness. Lets see what the other models show. We got the cold, now we need the STJ to come and play.

All these constant cloudy days there has to be some kind of moisture out there!
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#1183 Postby ronyan » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:42 pm

Snowman67 wrote:I'm headed up to the Little Rock area on New Years Eve. What are the models showing for that area in the 12/31 - 1/2 time frame? Thanks.

12z GFS is cold, below freezing throughout the period with limited precip, low of 8F on that model.
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#1184 Postby wxman57 » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:43 pm

Snowman67 wrote:I'm headed up to the Little Rock area on New Years Eve. What are the models showing for that area in the 12/31 - 1/2 time frame? Thanks.


No issues indicated with the 12z GFS in Little Rock. Clear and cold (very cold) up there. Of course, lots of uncertainty for your departure out of Tomball. Check back in 6-7 days...
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#1185 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:45 pm

So the PGFS is showing a big ice storm for the hill country, staying just west of SE Tx. Looks kinda strange. It has a Low out west but maybe a bit further west than we would like.Keeps it mostly rain for SE Tx, but winter precip over the hill country. Not sure if i completely agree with it even though im biased. It closes off an upper level low out west and isnt as cold as the GFS.

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#1186 Postby orangeblood » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:50 pm

:uarrow: Yep - The GFS and Parallel are flip flopping. TeamPlayersBlue, trust me, you want energy to dig into the southwest like that to increase your winter weather chances in your neighborhood. The cold will be there with that kind of massive HP sliding down the lee side of the Rockies like that - the Parallel erodes the dense cold air way too quickly.
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#1187 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:55 pm

orangeblood wrote::uarrow: Yep - The GFS and Parallel are flip flopping. TeamPlayersBlue, trust me, you want energy to dig into the southwest like that to increase your winter weather chances in your neighborhood. The cold will be there with that kind of massive HP sliding down the lee side of the Rockies like that - the Parallel erodes the dense cold air way too quickly.



:lol: I was thinking that but was never really sure. Lots of football left.
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#1188 Postby perk » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:56 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Snowman67 wrote:I'm headed up to the Little Rock area on New Years Eve. What are the models showing for that area in the 12/31 - 1/2 time frame? Thanks.


No issues indicated with the 12z GFS in Little Rock. Clear and cold (very cold) up there. Of course, lots of uncertainty for your departure out of Tomball. Check back in 6-7 days...



wxman57 when can we start to believe the model output.
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#1189 Postby dhweather » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:01 pm

Boy, if this pans out, OUCH.

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#1190 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:01 pm

You want STJ? Major SOI crash going on right now.
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Re: Texas Winter 2014-2015

#1191 Postby orangeblood » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:01 pm

Portastorm wrote:Watching the 12z GFS op run roll in now. At 192 hours (6z on 12/31), it brings a 1052 mb high into west central Montana. Classic trajectory for spilling Arctic air down the leeside of the Rockies and into Texas. The question is: how cold will the source region air be?


Portastorm - to answer your question about source region, most all models take the air currently sitting over Northeastern Siberia (top left of the image below) and discharge it directly into the lower 48 down into our neighborhoods next week. This air has Vodka written all over it, might even be a little discounted if you've seen what the Russian Ruble has been up to lately! :wink:

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#1192 Postby ndale » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:05 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Portastorm wrote:Watching the 12z GFS op run roll in now. At 192 hours (6z on 12/31), it brings a 1052 mb high into west central Montana. Classic trajectory for spilling Arctic air down the leeside of the Rockies and into Texas. The question is: how cold will the source region air be?


Portastorm - to answer your question about source region, most all models take the air currently sitting over Northeastern Siberia (top left of the image below) and discharge it directly into the lower 48 down into our neighborhoods next week. This air has Vodka written all over it, might even be a little discounted if you've seen what the Russian Ruble has been up to lately! :wink:

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Thanks for confirming what I thought I heard, wanted to be sure I wasn't dreaming.
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#1193 Postby orangeblood » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:05 pm

Ntxw wrote:You want STJ? Major SOI crash going on right now.


When's the last time we've had an SOI crash of this magnitude ? 2009-2010 winter ?
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#1194 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:10 pm

Ntxw wrote:You want STJ? Major SOI crash going on right now.


That plus cross polar flow would be amazing for us in Texas.
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#1195 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:17 pm

SOI crash have to do with the MJO coming back too life?
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#1196 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:24 pm

Canadian. :)

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#1197 Postby orangeblood » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:31 pm

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:SOI crash have to do with the MJO coming back too life?


Ntxw can get more in depth with you about this but typically the usual indices of interannual variability of the MJO are uncorrelated with measures of the ENSO cycle.
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#1198 Postby Snowman67 » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:34 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Snowman67 wrote:I'm headed up to the Little Rock area on New Years Eve. What are the models showing for that area in the 12/31 - 1/2 time frame? Thanks.


No issues indicated with the 12z GFS in Little Rock. Clear and cold (very cold) up there. Of course, lots of uncertainty for your departure out of Tomball. Check back in 6-7 days...


Thanks 57 and Ronyan! I'll check back next week to see what it looks like.
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#1199 Postby gatorcane » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:38 pm

dhweather wrote:Boy, if this pans out, OUCH.

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... _us_37.png

2M Temps for Texas corresponding to the above :cold:

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#1200 Postby gatorcane » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:47 pm

12Z ECMWF rolling, looks like it is trying to shunt the core of the artic air more to the Southeast than the 00Z run though still cold for Texas...out through 168 hours so far. Huge Artic high pressure diving south folks....models trending colder for this artic blast event for the continental United States.

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