ATL: GONZALO - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Hurricane - Discussion

#921 Postby Alyono » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:39 pm

ozonepete wrote:Wow just look at the satellite loops. It's clearly starting another Eye-wall Replacement. This TC just loves ERCs.


that new band is too far out to do anything until after this clears Bermuda
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Hurricane - Discussion

#922 Postby ozonepete » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:48 pm

Alyono wrote:
ozonepete wrote:Wow just look at the satellite loops. It's clearly starting another Eye-wall Replacement. This TC just loves ERCs.


that new band is too far out to do anything until after this clears Bermuda


Respectfully disagree that it won't do anything at all. I've spent a lot of time watching ERCs and studying them. While yes, it couldn't likely complete another ERC with that new band, it has a really good shot at pulling it in by at least half the distance before it hits Bermuda. That would allow for maintenance or strengthening if the dry air and shear don't get in before then.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Hurricane - Discussion

#923 Postby ozonepete » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:51 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
ozonepete wrote:Wow just look at the satellite loops. It's clearly starting another Eye-wall Replacement. This TC just loves ERCs.

Why do these Eyewall Replacement Cycles keep occurring? This like the third or fourth one.


A really good question. Nobody still really knows for sure why some storms do more than others or do them more frequently. I've read a lot of the literature on them but have not seen a list of factors that favor them. I'll see if there's any new research out there.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Hurricane - Discussion

#924 Postby tolakram » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:52 pm

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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Hurricane - Discussion

#925 Postby supercane4867 » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:55 pm

Inner eyewall almost cleared

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#926 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:48 am

At this rate, it may reach Bermuda within 12 to 18 hours. Definitely time is up to prepare there.
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#927 Postby brunota2003 » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:33 am

ozonepete wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:I realize I have mentioned this probably before, but out of curiosity does anyone know if The Weather Channel sent anyone to cover Gonzalo in Bermuda?


I haven't heard anything yet but I would bet my credentials that Cantore will be there unless he has some dire emergency. He always goes to the big ones. Always.

The airport closed at 9 pm. However, Mark Sudduth and Jim Edds are both there. Mark now "works" for TWC, and him and Jim will both be phoning into TWC.
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#928 Postby EquusStorm » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:42 am

Sort of grasping at straws to find some sort of a record for Gonzalo's combination of intensity, location, and season, a quick cursory glance at the Atlantic record reveals that, possibly excepting Hazel in 1954, only one other category four cyclone has apparently existed further north than Gonzalo past the first half of October - 33.7*N for a 1939 hurricane, also on October 17th. Also, according to the best track, if Gonzalo persists as a category four for another advisory, it will beat the 1939 storm in becoming the latest category four storm we've ever had north of roughly 28.5*N by a few hours. Don't quote me on that though... I'm sure I missed something somewhere. A pretty arbitrary and marginal record, yes, but a record indeed.

Also I can't think of the name Gonzalo without being reminded of 'Gonchi' Gonzalo Rodriguez, the young and tragically fated CART driver from 1999...
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Hurricane - Discussion

#929 Postby abajan » Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:01 am

One glimmer of hope is that the 11 PM projected track takes Gonzalo's eye directly over Bermuda instead of a few miles to its west. If this actually happens, Bermuda will be spared the most dangerous sector of the hurricane.

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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Hurricane - Discussion

#930 Postby beoumont » Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:18 am

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#931 Postby bahamaswx » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:07 am

Gonna pass to the right of Bermuda at this rate.
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#932 Postby abajan » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:14 am

bahamaswx wrote:Gonna pass to the right of Bermuda at this rate.
That's my thinking as well. In fact I've felt this way about the track for the past couple of days but time will tell.

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#933 Postby TheAustinMan » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:18 am

First visible image this morning.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Hurricane - Discussion

#934 Postby NDG » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:26 am

Chasers that have flown into Bermuda to experience Gonzalo are going to be very lucky, looks like Gonzalo's eye will pass over right over the tiny Island, wow how unlucky can Bermuda be!!!

Its rain bands are about 3 hours from reaching the Island, landfall looks to be early afternoon, good for video recording the storm.

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#935 Postby Alyono » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:39 am

preliminary aircraft data indicate ANOTHER eyewall replacement is underway.

If this only had 24 more hours before striking Bermuda, it would have been a repeat of Igor as the repetitive eyewall replacements would have weakened this significantly.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Hurricane - Discussion

#936 Postby abajan » Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:19 am

Eye clearly visible on Bermuda radar. It's about 200 miles away:

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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Hurricane - Discussion

#937 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:33 am

NDG wrote:Chasers that have flown into Bermuda to experience Gonzalo are going to be very lucky, looks like Gonzalo's eye will pass over right over the tiny Island, wow how unlucky can Bermuda be!!!

Its rain bands are about 3 hours from reaching the Island, landfall looks to be early afternoon, good for video recording the storm.

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bermuda is a wealthy nation and the structures are well built but this will be a real test...have been there and I wouldnt expect a repeat of cabo although damage will be significant
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Hurricane - Discussion

#938 Postby WilmingtonSandbar » Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:54 am

Looking at the http://portbermudawebcam.com/ webcam, winds are already fairly brisk.
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Re: ATL: GONZALO - Hurricane - Discussion

#939 Postby Blown Away » Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:11 am

Still a dangerous storm, but the satellite presentation not as good as a few hours ago IMO... If the eye goes over Bermuda it's like finding a needle in the Atlantic haystack...
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#940 Postby supercane4867 » Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:49 am

URNT12 KWBC 171314
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL082014
A. 17/13:00:15Z
B. 29 deg 56 min N
066 deg 28 min W
C. 700 mb 2633 m
D. 103 kt
E. 285 deg 14 nm
F. 062 deg 93 kt
G. 307 deg 35 nm
H. 947 mb
I. 9 C / 3066 m
J. 16 C / 3048 m
K. 15 C / NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. C30
N. 12345 / 7
O. 1 / 1 nm
P. NOAA3 1108A GONZALO OB 10
MAX FL WIND 121 KT 039 / 23 NM 11:41:49Z
CNTR DROPSONDE SFC WIND 095 / 5 KTS
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