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#201 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:23 am

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TROPICAL STORM ANA DISCUSSION NUMBER 7
NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI CP022014
1100 PM HST TUE OCT 14 2014

ANA REMAINS A STRONG TROPICAL STORM THIS EVENING. RECENT MICROWAVE
IMAGERY FROM THE 0507Z SSMIS AND A 0643Z AMSU PLATFORMS AVAILABLE
ON THE FNMOC/NRL WEB SITES INDICATE THE LLCC MAY BE NEAR THE
NORTHEASTERN EDGE OF THE PERSISTENT COLD CENTRAL DENSE OVERCAST.
THIS SEEMS REASONABLE BASED ON ENVIRONMENTAL VERTICAL WIND SHEAR
ESTIMATES OF 6 TO 10 KT FROM THE NORTHEAST ACCORDING TO THE
LATEST CIMSS AND SHIPS ANALYSES. THE MOST RECENT SUBJECTIVE DVORAK
INTENSITY ESTIMATES FOR ANA ARE 3.5/55 KT FROM PHFO AND JTWC...WHILE
THE SAB ESTIMATE IS 4.0/65 KT. DUE TO THE PERSISTENCE OF THE DEEP
CONVECTION AND INTENSE LIGHTNING OBSERVED NEAR THE INNER CORE OF
ANA...THE INTENSITY IS BEING NUDGED UP TO 60 KT TOWARD THE SAB
ESTIMATE AS A COMPROMISE.

STRONG TROPICAL STORM ANA IS CURRENTLY MOVING TOWARD THE WEST...OR
275 DEGREES...AT 8 KT. ANA CONTINUES TO BE STEERED ALONG THIS COURSE
BY A BUILDING DEEP LAYER RIDGE LOCATED TO ITS NORTH. THE CURRENT
TRACK FORECAST IS CLOSE TO THE PREVIOUS ONE WITH A MINOR SHIFT TO
THE LEFT DURING THE NEXT 24 AND 48 HOURS. THE RIDGE WILL SHIFT
SOUTHEASTWARD FRIDAY...WHICH WILL BEGIN TO STEER ANA TOWARD THE
NORTHWEST. DESPITE THE FACT THERE IS STILL SIGNIFICANT VERTICAL WIND
SHEAR OF NEAR 50 KT BETWEEN ANA AND THE MAIN HAWAIIAN ISLANDS...THE
FORECAST MODELS DO NOT CURRENTLY SHOW THAT ANA WILL BE IMPACTED BY
THESE HOSTILE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ALONG THE FORECAST TRACK.
INSTEAD...ANA WILL BE IN MINIMAL WIND SHEAR CONDITIONS SOUTH OF THE
RIDGE DURING THE NEXT 48 TO 72 HOURS. BY THIS WEEKEND...A
MID-LATITUDE TROUGH PASSING BY TO THE NORTH OF ANA IS EXPECTED TO
WEAKEN THE STEERING CURRENTS. THERE IS STILL A GREAT DEAL OF
UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THE IMPACT THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH WILL HAVE ON ANA.

THE INTENSITY FORECAST IS CLOSE TO THE PREVIOUS ONE...WITH ANA
POTENTIALLY BECOMING A HURRICANE ON WEDNESDAY DUE TO THE RELATIVELY
LIGHT VERTICAL WIND SHEAR AND WARM SSTS ALONG THE FORECAST TRACK.
THE INTENSITY FORECAST REMAINS CLOSE TO THE ICON CONSENSUS
GUIDANCE. IN ADDITION...THE CIRA OCEAN HEAT CONTENT ANALYSES ALONG
THE PROJECTED TRACK SHOW THE VALUE WILL RAMP UP DURING THE 48 TO 72
HOUR PERIOD...SO THERE SHOULD BE PLENTY OF OCEAN WARMTH AVAILABLE
TO THE SYSTEM AS ITS WINDS ARE INCREASING. THE PEAK INTENSITY IS
EXPECTED THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. A GRADUAL WEAKENING TREND IS FORECAST
THIS WEEKEND AS VERTICAL WIND SHEAR STARTS TO INCREASE ACCORDING TO
THE FORECAST GUIDANCE. ALSO...THERE MAY BE SOME INTERRUPTION OF THE
LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION IF IT INTERACTS WITH ANY OF THE MAIN HAWAIIAN
ISLANDS.


INTERESTS IN THE MAIN HAWAIIAN ISLANDS SHOULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR
THE FUTURE PROGRESS OF ANA. A HURRICANE WATCH MAY BE REQUIRED FOR
PORTIONS OF THE ISLAND CHAIN ON WEDNESDAY.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 15/0900Z 14.1N 146.1W 60 KT 70 MPH
12H 15/1800Z 14.3N 147.4W 65 KT 75 MPH
24H 16/0600Z 14.6N 148.9W 70 KT 80 MPH
36H 16/1800Z 15.1N 150.5W 75 KT 85 MPH
48H 17/0600Z 15.6N 152.1W 80 KT 90 MPH
72H 18/0600Z 17.9N 155.0W 80 KT 90 MPH
96H 19/0600Z 19.9N 157.2W 75 KT 85 MPH
120H 20/0600Z 21.6N 158.6W 65 KT 75 MPH

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FORECASTER HOUSTON


Basically they have no idea on what to expect...
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Re: CPAC: ANA - Tropical Storm

#202 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:37 am

Given the Pacific this year, and any talk about low shear and warm SSTs, it would be a good idea to be very prepared.

6Z models on Wednesday, through 5 days, with consensus of all available models in the NHC's publicly available model suite:

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#203 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:49 am

Kingarabian wrote::uarrow: ADT is being ignored completely by the cphc.


They did that with Genevieve too. ADT was at 55-65 knts and the CPHC went with uhh 30 knt IIRC.
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#204 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:51 am

UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 8.2.1
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 15 OCT 2014 Time : 110000 UTC
Lat : 14:10:47 N Lon : 146:21:32 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
4.5 / 982.1mb/ 77.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
4.5 4.5 4.0

Center Temp : -75.6C Cloud Region Temp : -74.0C

Scene Type : UNIFORM CDO CLOUD REGION w/ MW EYE

Positioning Method : FORECAST INTERPOLATION

Ocean Basin : EAST PACIFIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : ATLANTIC

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : MW ON
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF

C/K/Z MSLP Estimate Inputs :
- Average 34 knot radii : 48km
- Environmental MSLP : 1013mb

Satellite Name : GOES15
Satellite Viewing Angle : 21.2 degrees
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#205 Postby Alyono » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:04 am

wonder if Cantore will head to Hawaii. TWC seems more worried about Bermuda than the USA
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#206 Postby RL3AO » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:15 am

Alyono wrote:wonder if Cantore will head to Hawaii. TWC seems more worried about Bermuda than the USA


Well...its closer to Atlanta...
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#207 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:39 am

RL3AO wrote:
Alyono wrote:wonder if Cantore will head to Hawaii. TWC seems more worried about Bermuda than the USA


Well...its closer to Atlanta...

I'm guessing more attention is on the Atlantic at the moment since it's been basically dead all season up till this point. :roll:
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#208 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:42 am

TheStormExpert wrote:
RL3AO wrote:
Alyono wrote:wonder if Cantore will head to Hawaii. TWC seems more worried about Bermuda than the USA


Well...its closer to Atlanta...

I'm guessing more attention is on the Atlantic at the moment since it's been basically dead all season up till this point. :roll:


Difference IMO is Hawaii is part of the USA while Bermuda is not.
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#209 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:52 am

:uarrow: Hopefully they start drawing there attention towards Hawaii real soon!
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#210 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:54 am

CP, 02, 2014101512, , BEST, 0, 142N, 1461W, 60, 994, TS, 34, NEQ, 55, 50, 40, 55, 1011, 220, 20, 0, 0, C, 0, , 0, 0, ANA, D,
CP, 02, 2014101512, , BEST, 0, 142N, 1461W, 60, 994, TS, 50, NEQ, 25, 25, 20, 25, 1011, 220, 20, 0, 0, C, 0, , 0, 0, ANA, D, No hurricane yet.
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#211 Postby tolakram » Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:49 am

Live IR, putting on a few burst over the last hour or so, with an eye slowly becoming more apparent, though in the last few frames it looks like shear has increased.

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-W%20PACUS&lat=13&lon=-148&info=ir&zoom=1&width=1000&height=800&type=Animation&quality=95&palette=ir4.pal&numframes=10
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#212 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:09 am

ADT isn't as reliable with weaker storms, so it can be given much less weight.
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Re: CPAC: ANA - Tropical Storm

#213 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:51 am

5 AM HST advisory track.

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#214 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:19 am

I'm guessing Watches/Warnings for the Hawaiian Islands will be put up as early as tomorrow morning at this rate.
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#215 Postby euro6208 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:24 am

So we have another possible hurricane threat for hawaii...

I am thinking this will rapidly weaken as it nears hawaii same with Iselle and most hawaii storms...If it makes it there...

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#216 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:09 pm

Ana doesn't appear to be very organized at the moment

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#217 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:26 pm

:uarrow: At least there seems to be convection trying to form over the center now.
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#218 Postby Alyono » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:17 pm

Ana has reached the western extent of the ridge. It has to make a NW turn in the very near future
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#219 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:26 pm

12z Euro has the same track except it now has Ana as a hurricane as it comes very close to Oahu
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Re: CPAC: ANA - Tropical Storm

#220 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:31 pm

18z Best Track stays at 60kts and that makes it three times in a row on Best Track. (06z,12z and 18z)

CP, 02, 2014101518, , BEST, 0, 143N, 1470W, 60, 994, TS

Is shear affecting Ana that is not letting her go to Hurricane status yet?
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