ATL: CRISTOBAL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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#1221 Postby hectopascal » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:24 pm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 24 AUG 2014 Time : 004500 UTC
Lat : 22:14:54 N Lon : 72:46:12 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
2.1 /1005.8mb/ 31.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
2.1 2.2 2.2

Center Temp : -19.2C Cloud Region Temp : -38.3C

Scene Type : CURVED BAND with 0.42 ARC in LT GRAY
Maximum CURVED BAND with 0.80 ARC in LT GRAY
at Lat: 23:02:24 N Lon: 72:10:11 W

Positioning Method : FORECAST INTERPOLATION

Ocean Basin : ATLANTIC

Outlook for TC Intensification Based on Current
Env. Shear Values and MPI Differential
Forecast Interval : 6hr 12hr 18hr 24hr
F F F F

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Loooking at all data.
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#1222 Postby nativefloridian » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:29 pm

Doesn't appear to be moving much at the moment. :?:
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#1223 Postby Alyono » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:32 pm

there is an outflow restriction, which will slow intensification, but not much shear over the center
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1224 Postby crimi481 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:35 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/flash-bd.html

I am no pro, but it appears the entire N. half of storm will shed itself off to the north.
Leaving the LOW center to move more W. WNW.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1225 Postby tolakram » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:35 pm

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#1226 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:37 pm

Look at the trough digging now in this WV loop....nice exit route setting up for our TD which should keep it east of the U.S.:

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1227 Postby blp » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:44 pm

Is it me or does the llc look to be moving more west.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/04L/imagery/swir_lalo-animated.gif
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1228 Postby Blown Away » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:50 pm

blp wrote:Is it me or does the llc look to be moving more west.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/04L/imagery/swir_lalo-animated.gif


That's weird, sure does look like a LLC moving W... Probably some kind of eddy... Interesting...
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#1229 Postby ninel conde » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:54 pm

gatorcane wrote:Look at the trough digging now in this WV loop....nice exit route setting up for our TD which should keep it east of the U.S.:

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you dont see powerful trofs like that in august alot. i think its pretty amazing td4 formed at all.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1230 Postby Blown Away » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:55 pm

The UKMET and the NAVGEM models build enough ridging north of
the cyclone to steer it across Florida and into the Gulf of Mexico.


First time the NHC or NWS has even mentioned this option... Seems a recurve was getting more likely...
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#1231 Postby ozonepete » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:08 pm

Alyono wrote:there is an outflow restriction, which will slow intensification, but not much shear over the center


Exactly, Alyono. Shear has dropped but there is some subsidence over the western semicircle which should subside in 24 hours. Look at how upper level divergence is really restricted to the west (dashed lines). This shows the effects of the outflow restriction you referred to.

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1232 Postby bahamaswx » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:00 pm

Restricted outflow to the west should spare most of the Bahamas from flooding rainfall. :sun:
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1233 Postby chaser1 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:05 am

There is not a satellite resolution that exists that could help me pick out a center or attempt to guess forward motion from that "soup" called a tropical depression.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1234 Postby Hammy » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:12 am

chaser1 wrote:There is not a satellite resolution that exists that could help me pick out a center or attempt to guess forward motion from that "soup" called a tropical depression.


Rapidscan satellite and banding give me the impression that the center is just northeast of the area between Inagua and the Turks and Caicos islands, and appears to be tightening up and becoming more compact.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1235 Postby chaser1 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:17 am

Thanks Hammy... :D do you have a link for the rapidscan?
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1236 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:21 am

Recon is about to do a center fix.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1237 Postby chaser1 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:27 am

...drum roll....... though i'm guessing a crawl to the NW.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1238 Postby Hammy » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:28 am

chaser1 wrote:Thanks Hammy... :D do you have a link for the rapidscan?


http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastconusir.html It's the IR1 here, 30 frames; I'm not sure how to copy the full loop link though Ithe loop just has the same link as the main page for me).

tolakram wrote:Recon is about to do a center fix.


Possible tropical storm winds in SE quad, hopefully they can complete a NE-SW pass prior to the advisory.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1239 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:29 am

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#1240 Postby bahamaswx » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:31 am

Just north of Mayaguana. Ever so slightly right of track.
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