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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#581 Postby Hammy » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:09 pm

It looks like the sharpest part of the wave axis (I see no indication of a closed low based on Guadeloupe radar) is just to the east of Antigua, so possibly something could get going overnight if we get a good burst of convection.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#582 Postby Javlin » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:17 pm

it still looks like we have competing centers to me? http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... short.html
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#583 Postby Sanibel » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:44 pm

I think it's feeling the ridge and shifting W.
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#584 Postby hectopascal » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:47 pm

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http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/goes_r/provi ... ation.html
TOT rate =4

Is closed and intensiying i believe it may have come under the influence of a kelvin wave eddy.



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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#585 Postby HurricaneTracker2031 » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:56 pm

96L appears to be consolidating and due to the recent burst in convective activity near an LLC that tropical cyclone genesis is coming soon in the next 48 hours..

Synopsis for 96L and other systems: http://goo.gl/avOHwJ


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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#586 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:51 pm

The circulation with 96L is very vigorous but I think a big part of the problem with it is that it still has multiple vorts rotating around in there and there still isn't a clear cut winner between all of them. Until that issue is resolved I think 96L will continue to struggle. With its fast forward speed it may have trouble sorting that out and consolidating.

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#587 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:56 pm

To add to what I just said I'm see rotation at 16N and 61W as well as at 18N and 62W. The southern rotation appears to be headed off to the west while the northern vort with the most recent convective burst is heading wnw.

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#588 Postby Hammy » Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:14 am

Upper air environment is becoming less favorable by the looks of it, the CIMSS map shows the upper high being south of where the supposed circulation is.
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#589 Postby hectopascal » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:24 am

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Not the best sat-pic if you enlarge does appear to be a pin eye now visible.

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#590 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:36 am

hectopascal wrote:http://i60.tinypic.com/33adw02.jpg
Not the best sat-pic if you enlarge does appear to be a pin eye now visible.

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That picture is almost a day old...
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#591 Postby bahamaswx » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:36 am

hectopascal wrote:[img]http://i60.tinypic.com/33adw02.jpg[img]
Not the best sat-pic if you enlarge does appear to be a pin eye now visible.

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That's a picture from yesterday. :)
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#592 Postby hectopascal » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:44 am

Apologize its late and dont have my glass,s on :)
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#593 Postby USTropics » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:54 am

Current image of 96L:

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#594 Postby Hammy » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:47 am

Latest ASCAT quite literally shows nothing at the surface, not even a sharp trough, and winds no higher than 25kts.
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#595 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:05 am

Hammy wrote:Latest ASCAT quite literally shows nothing at the surface, not even a sharp trough, and winds no higher than 25kts.


Which makes sense if you look at the 2 buoys that are in proximity.
Station 42060 has SE winds that turn from NE 3 hours ago although pressures are falling pretty robustly.

Station 42059 has NNE winds and pressures are falling pretty robustly there too. It is, however, much farther west than the other buoy (but close enough it should be affected).

If the center is where everyone has been thinking, 42060 would surely have a westerly component to the winds there, but a NE to SE would suggest a center to the south.

This is where I think the center location may be

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Also if you look at SJU long range loop the rotation axis is south of PR, not north or east
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#596 Postby bahamaswx » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:38 am

Hard to tell at night but it certainly looks like something is trying to form way down there.

This thing just can't get it's act together.
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#597 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:33 am

It's looking certain now that this thing isn't going to go to Florida, of course we still need to keep an eye on it. :D
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#598 Postby paintplaye » Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:49 am

TheStormExpert wrote:It's looking certain now that this thing isn't going to go to Florida, of course we still need to keep an eye on it. :D



That southern vortex looks a lot more defined than it was earlier today. This would change the location of the center by 2 to 3 degrees which can change a lot in respect to forecasted track (and intensity for that matter) . This is especially true in this scenario where the expected trough struggles to fully pickup the storm. I wouldn't be so certain that Florida is completely safe.
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#599 Postby abajan » Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:49 am

hectopascal wrote:...

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#600 Postby chaser1 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:55 am

TheStormExpert wrote:It's looking certain now that this thing isn't going to go to Florida, of course we still need to keep an eye on it. :D


Whoa? Just woke up for a quick looksy. And where oh where did my cyclone just go, LOL??

I have to disagree with part of your assertion - "Its looking certain" :cheesy: The only thing that is certain is 96L's "uncertainty". Heck, if this thing does ever develop and get tagged a name, we need to drop alphabetical formality and simply name it "Sybil" - Storm of multiple personalities! Craziest disturbance?! If it doesn't like where its going, it simply reinvents where is presently is, LOL

I do agree with a prior post indicating an argument for a new center relocation well south. Of course, this too will change....
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