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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#501 Postby sunnyday » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:24 pm

Friends in So Fla said on of the local mets said the disturbance will pass to the east of the Bahamas and not affect SE fl at all.
Everyone agree? How can he be so sure when the storm has not even formed?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#502 Postby somethingfunny » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:25 pm

sunnyday wrote:Friends in So Fla said on of the local mets said the disturbance will pass to the east of the Bahamas and not affect SE fl at all.
Everyone agree? How can he be so sure when the storm has not even formed?


I have no contention with that meteorologist's statement except for one: Never say "will" when you should say "could".
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#503 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:27 pm

gatorcane wrote:Anybody see a broad circulation at 16N, 60W heading nearly due west? This one could end up taking over...

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I think there is a some slight rotation there possibly. I actually think this could get tucked in further W or WNW with that main convection.
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#504 Postby chaser1 » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:27 pm

gatorcane wrote:Anybody see a broad circulation at 16N, 60W heading nearly due west? This one could end up taking over...

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Yes..., No..., Maybe...LOL Seriously though, one could make a case for a larger broader center there. Heck, I'm starting to wonder if something could be trying to reform at about 16.5N & 63W ??
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#505 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:27 pm

Alyono wrote:something to consider, there are TWO ways this could impact the USA. One is to move very fast in the short term, like the 12Z HWRF. It makes it far enough west to miss the trough. The other is to move slower than it is moving, which would result in it being trapped by the ridge

I agree with you on this as well. It could get fast enough to out race the weakness....That could be the most plausible thing right now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#506 Postby blp » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:38 pm

deltadog03 wrote:
Alyono wrote:something to consider, there are TWO ways this could impact the USA. One is to move very fast in the short term, like the 12Z HWRF. It makes it far enough west to miss the trough. The other is to move slower than it is moving, which would result in it being trapped by the ridge

I agree with you on this as well. It could get fast enough to out race the weakness....That could be the most plausible thing right now.


Very good obeservations. I also think on the trapping scenario it has to get passed 75w because the blocking ridge will not extend too far out during that time.
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#507 Postby Javlin » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:42 pm

Sitting back and looking at the bigger picture it is a fairly overall large rotation

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/flash-vis.html
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#508 Postby Rail Dawg » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:44 pm

Been doing this almost 35 years and still am not surprised by anything. We're all getting better at it but it's still a crap shoot where this will head.
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#509 Postby Gustywind » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:46 pm

gatorcane wrote:Anybody see a broad circulation at 16N, 60W heading nearly due west? This one could end up taking over...

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Waouw just east Guadeloupe, that won't be good news for us Gatorcane :eek:. Hope nothing forms near or on the Lesser Antilles :spam: We want juicy amount of water :) and no more !
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#510 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:49 pm

SHIPS has this down to 4 knots by day 5, drifting NNW. If this thing loiters over the south Bahamas...an HWRF-style boom is not out of the question. IMO.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#511 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:53 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#512 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:54 pm

deltadog03 wrote:[img]Image[/img]

I agree. The old LLC is likely winding down, and a new LLC will transfer down underneath the convection.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#513 Postby rolltide » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:58 pm

It looks to me like the likely COC will go right over Puerto Rico heading wnw. If so this means it will have to deal with the DR. This may delay any development until it reaches the southern Bahamas if it doesn't fall apart. After that who knows.





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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#514 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:00 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:
deltadog03 wrote:[img]Image[/img]

I agree. The old LLC is likely winding down, and a new LLC will transfer down underneath the convection.


radar seems to be indicating the same thing so this could get going fast tonight if thats the case

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#515 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:03 pm

deltadog03 wrote:[img]Image[/img]


\Quite likely there are multiple vort rotating around and any convective increase will likely lower the pressure that area and produce another vort and many more until persistent convection can maintain.
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#516 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:07 pm

Agreed Aric
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#517 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:11 pm

racing at 25 mph theres no way this developes . I like the hwrf in terms of getting tangled with the islands then quick ramp up in Bahamas.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#518 Postby tropicwatch » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:12 pm

Well the showers in Puerto Rico are moving from north to south.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

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#520 Postby tropicwatch » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:20 pm

It does seem to be cruisin 8-)
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