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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
CMC is pretty far right but the rest are still fairly well clustered, maybe shifted a little right but it was the 18z run and some wobble is to be anticipated, especially until a center actually forms and gives the models something to lock onto. Intensity is about the same, strong
TS/ minimal H at NC
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
WilmingtonSandbar wrote:Am I reading the models wrong or did the 18z runs drastically change the forecast path and strength of this storm? It seems like most of them have it now doing a big ole "right turn Clyde".

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CrazyC83 wrote:What is the shear like ahead of the storm? With no land interaction, hurricane status may not be all out of the question...
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* ATLANTIC SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST *
* GOES AVAILABLE, OHC AVAILABLE *
* INVEST AL912014 07/01/14 00 UTC *
TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
V (KT) NO LAND 30 33 37 41 44 51 56 61 67 72 72 71 63
V (KT) LAND 30 33 37 41 44 51 56 61 67 72 72 71 63
V (KT) LGE mod 30 33 35 38 40 45 50 55 60 64 64 59 52
Storm Type TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP EXTP EXTP
SHEAR (KT) 9 11 9 11 10 13 12 13 15 13 36 48 58
SHEAR ADJ (KT) -6 -1 -1 -4 -4 -3 -4 -1 -4 -4 -4 -3 -5
SHEAR DIR 345 3 11 12 14 355 347 5 327 281 241 234 232
SST (C) 28.1 28.2 28.3 28.3 28.3 28.1 27.9 27.5 27.5 26.4 24.4 20.8 16.2
POT. INT. (KT) 135 135 137 137 138 136 134 129 131 120 104 85 73
ADJ. POT. INT. 113 112 113 113 115 115 114 110 112 105 92 77 69
200 MB T (C) -54.6 -54.6 -54.6 -54.4 -54.2 -54.4 -54.0 -54.3 -53.6 -54.1 -53.5 -54.2 -53.8
TH_E DEV (C) 10 10 10 12 13 11 14 10 11 4 5 1 1
700-500 MB RH 56 51 51 52 49 50 53 53 54 47 43 43 43
GFS VTEX (KT) 10 10 11 11 11 11 10 10 11 13 15 20 20
850 MB ENV VOR -14 -32 -45 -32 -39 -51 -44 -26 -1 -2 -15 0 12
200 MB DIV -3 7 20 8 4 6 12 26 34 37 26 40 15
700-850 TADV 0 0 0 0 -1 -2 1 -5 7 -5 -19 -34 -32
LAND (KM) 124 104 84 75 67 81 133 153 91 21 231 236 168
LAT (DEG N) 27.6 xx.x xx.x xx.x xx.x xx.x xx.x xx.x xx.x xx.x xx.x xx.x xx.x
LONG(DEG W) 79.0 xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x
STM SPEED (KT) 3 2 2 2 3 6 7 8 12 16 19 19 18
HEAT CONTENT 31 31 29 26 24 19 18 23 8 0 0 0 0
FORECAST TRACK FROM OFPI INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):205/ 5 CX,CY: -1/ -4
T-12 MAX WIND: 25 PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB): 474 (MEAN=624)
GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV. 50-200 KM RAD: 27.3 (MEAN=14.5)
% GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C 50-200 KM RAD: 56.0 (MEAN=65.0)
INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
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SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE 1. 2. 3. 4. 6. 8. 9. 11. 12. 12. 13. 14.
SST POTENTIAL 0. 1. 1. 2. 4. 8. 12. 16. 19. 19. 19. 18.
VERTICAL SHEAR MAG 1. 3. 4. 6. 8. 9. 9. 8. 8. 5. 0. -7.
VERTICAL SHEAR ADJ 0. 1. 1. 1. 2. 3. 3. 4. 4. 4. 4. 3.
VERTICAL SHEAR DIR 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. 0. 2. 4. 6.
PERSISTENCE 1. 1. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 1. 1. 0. 0. 0.
200/250 MB TEMP. 0. 1. 1. 1. 2. 3. 3. 4. 4. 5. 6. 6.
THETA_E EXCESS 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 2. 2. 2. 1. -1. -4. -6.
700-500 MB RH 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
GFS VORTEX TENDENCY 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. 1. 3. 6. 6.
850 MB ENV VORTICITY 0. -1. -1. -1. -2. -3. -4. -5. -5. -5. -6. -5.
200 MB DIVERGENCE 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. 0. 0. 0.
850-700 T ADVEC 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 2.
ZONAL STORM MOTION 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -2. -2. -2.
STEERING LEVEL PRES 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 2. 1. 2. 3. 2. 2. 1.
DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -1. 0. 0. -1.
GOES PREDICTORS 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1.
OCEAN HEAT CONTENT 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
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TOTAL CHANGE 3. 7. 11. 14. 21. 26. 31. 37. 42. 42. 41. 33.
** 2013 ATLANTIC RI INDEX AL912014 INVEST 07/01/14 00 UTC **
( 30 KT OR MORE MAX WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24 HR)
12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT): 5.0 Range:-49.5 to 33.0 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.7/ 1.9
850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) : 10.2 Range: 28.8 to 2.9 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.7/ 0.8
STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP : 27.3 Range: 37.5 to 2.9 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.3/ 0.4
850-700 MB REL HUM (%): 60.6 Range: 43.2 to 93.5 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.3/ 0.4
POT = MPI-VMAX (KT) : 83.3 Range: 28.4 to 139.1 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.5/ 0.3
Heat content (KJ/cm2) : 28.2 Range: 0.0 to 155.1 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.2/ 0.1
D200 (10**7s-1) : 7.2 Range:-23.1 to 181.5 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.1/ 0.1
% area w/pixels <-30 C: 51.0 Range: 15.3 to 100.0 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.4/ 0.1
Prob of RI for 25 kt RI threshold= 16% is 1.4 times the sample mean(11.9%)
Prob of RI for 30 kt RI threshold= 9% is 1.2 times the sample mean( 7.6%)
Prob of RI for 35 kt RI threshold= 5% is 1.2 times the sample mean( 4.6%)
Prob of RI for 40 kt RI threshold= 4% is 1.5 times the sample mean( 3.0%)
## ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) AL912014 INVEST 07/01/14 00 UTC ##
## STORM NOT ANNULAR, SCREENING STEP FAILED, NPASS=4 NFAIL=3 ##
## AHI= 0 (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##
** PROBLTY OF AT LEAST 1 SCNDRY EYEWL FORMTN EVENT AL912014 INVEST 07/01/2014 00 UTC **
TIME(HR) 0-12 12-24(0-24) 24-36(0-36) 36-48(0-48)
CLIMO(%) 0 0( 0) 0( 0) 0( 0) <-- PROB BASED ON INTENSITY ONLY
PROB(%) 0 0( 0) 0( 0) 0( 0) PC4 UNAVAIL...MODEL SKILL DEGRADED
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Re: ATL: ONE - Models
Euro has gone a tad right and looks to just miss the outer banks now. Hopefully that trend will continue. 988mb at 72 hours, 978 at 96 hours and racing NE away from the coast.
Lower rez animation: http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/ecmwf-opertc2.cgi?time=2014070100&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation
Lower rez animation: http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/ecmwf-opertc2.cgi?time=2014070100&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation
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Re: ATL: ONE - Models
6Z GFS, on the other hand, now has a 984mb storm bullseye over Hatteras at 78 hours. Nice of the GFS to wake up and see the storm now.
Of course with all the globals intensity is sketchy, but I think what Alyono meant was it's impressive how deep the GFS and Canadian make this storm.
Of course with all the globals intensity is sketchy, but I think what Alyono meant was it's impressive how deep the GFS and Canadian make this storm.
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TheStormExpert wrote:Alyono wrote:GFS and CMC are indicating winds near or at hurricane intensity with the 0Z runs. Impressive for global models
May be giving credit to the Euro when this is all said and done.
No doubt about it if anything we should be already giving credits to the Euro, the GFS never wanted to develop it and the CMC/GEM not only was not doing much with it but it was sending it out to Sea since the low pressure formed off the SC coast 3 days ago.
Looks like the King is back this year for the Atlantic.
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Re: ATL: ONE - Models
Remarkable, Euro and GFS in agreement in 0z run. Simular track and intensity. GFS now appraching minimum hurricane gusts on the OBX. Euro still a bit stronger.
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NDG wrote:TheStormExpert wrote:Alyono wrote:GFS and CMC are indicating winds near or at hurricane intensity with the 0Z runs. Impressive for global models
May be giving credit to the Euro when this is all said and done.
No doubt about it if anything we should be already giving credits to the Euro, the GFS never wanted to develop it and the CMC/GEM not only was not doing much with it but it was sending it out to Sea since the low pressure formed off the SC coast 3 days ago.
Looks like the King is back this year for the Atlantic.
Agreed, GFS has really been bad. Made ghost storms in the Gulf out of something tha didn't exist then didn't make anything from something that did.
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NDG wrote:TheStormExpert wrote:Alyono wrote:GFS and CMC are indicating winds near or at hurricane intensity with the 0Z runs. Impressive for global models
May be giving credit to the Euro when this is all said and done.
No doubt about it if anything we should be already giving credits to the Euro, the GFS never wanted to develop it and the CMC/GEM not only was not doing much with it but it was sending it out to Sea since the low pressure formed off the SC coast 3 days ago.
Looks like the King is back this year for the Atlantic.
After the GFS earlier this month had done poorly with 90L and the W. Caribbean phantom storm I assumed the Euro might be onto something.
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OuterBanker wrote:Maybe instead of spending millions of dollars to upgrade the GFS the past couple of years they should have spent millions of Euros.

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Re: ATL: ONE - Models
Where can I find the Euro model runs? I have been able to find the GFS, but obviously it isn't doing such a good job this year.
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Re: ATL: ONE - Models
WilmingtonSandbar wrote:Where can I find the Euro model runs? I have been able to find the GFS, but obviously it isn't doing such a good job this year.
I linked to one a few posts up. http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/
I use WeatherBell Premium for the higher rez versions.
The tropical Atlantic EWALL has them: http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/ewalltropatl.html
Instant weather maps has a version: http://www.instantweathermaps.com/ECMWF-php/ecmwf.php
and tcgen has it as well: http://ruc.noaa.gov/hfip/tcgen/
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Re: ATL: ONE - Models
tolakram wrote:WilmingtonSandbar wrote:Where can I find the Euro model runs? I have been able to find the GFS, but obviously it isn't doing such a good job this year.
I linked to one a few posts up. http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/
I use WeatherBell Premium for the higher rez versions.
The tropical Atlantic EWALL has them: http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/ewalltropatl.html
Instant weather maps has a version: http://www.instantweathermaps.com/ECMWF-php/ecmwf.php
and tcgen has it as well: http://ruc.noaa.gov/hfip/tcgen/
Thanks Tolakram
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