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Re: Texas Spring-2014

#301 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:27 pm

gboudx wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
gboudx wrote:On radar earlier you could clearly see the dryline and cold front intersecting in that area, with storms blowing up right where they met. The triple point.

Typically with a triple point you deal with a warm front ahead of it. There wasn't one, with the cold front triple point it's a squall line. These storms fired and traveled over the same areas without a warm front from the dry-line.


Larry Mowery on channel 11 called it a "triple point". Maybe he needs the weather lesson?


David Finfrock's sidekick also called it a triple point.
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#302 Postby ravyrn » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:28 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:It's called Gibson Ridge radar or GR radar. Here's a base velocity image from that cell. Strong rotation there.
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/8820/092s.png


Not the one I was thinking of, but it got the job done. Thanks for sharing. Is GR radar free or pay?
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Re: Texas Spring-2014

#303 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:28 pm

‏@wfaaweathertoo · Possible tornado now moving into Commerce in Hopkins County. Take shelter. -sm pic.twitter.com/NAqXWUIHai

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Re: Texas Spring-2014

#304 Postby ravyrn » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:30 pm

Ntxw wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:Man Denton could get hit with more hail with another severe storm heading that way. What a day they've had today. Around 4 different severe cells moved over that area I think?


Early this morning there was a segment of thunderstorms that moved a row of counties north of Denton county. I wonder if those storms from Cooke and Grayson counties left an outflow to focus all these storms in the northern tier counties of the metroplex?


Ntxw, after this event passes and you find the time, could you or another seasoned amateur or promet take the time to break down what exactly an outflow boundary is and how they influence later storms. Or if you got a good link that does as much, that'd be awesome if you shared it. Thanks!
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Re: Texas Spring-2014

#305 Postby Ntxw » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:31 pm

gboudx wrote:Larry Mowery on channel 11 called it a "triple point". Maybe he needs the weather lesson?


It is a triple point, but it isn't a triple that feeds storms that keeps going over the same areas. A cold front tends to elevate the storms as they travel along it with cooler air rushing in and turning them into a squall line. The big supercells that we saw intensify and kept going usually feeds on a warm front. But there wasn't a warm front, they fed on a boundary. My bet is those storms this morning left the boundary a county to their south while they were moving west to east over Cooke and Grayson counties and east.
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#306 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:31 pm

Pete Delkus says a possible tornado on the ground in Commerce.
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Re: Texas Spring-2014

#307 Postby South Texas Storms » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:32 pm

ravyrn wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:It's called Gibson Ridge radar or GR radar. Here's a base velocity image from that cell. Strong rotation there.
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/8820/092s.png


Not the one I was thinking of, but it got the job done. Thanks for sharing. Is GR radar free or pay?


It costs money. Here is a link with more details: http://grlevelx.com/
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#308 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:33 pm

An unbelievable night unfolding here in North Texas.

And a tornado on the ground in the St. Louis metro area and tornadic storms exploding in Arkansas.
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Re: Texas Spring-2014

#309 Postby South Texas Storms » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:34 pm

Ntxw wrote:
gboudx wrote:Larry Mowery on channel 11 called it a "triple point". Maybe he needs the weather lesson?


It is a triple point, but it isn't a triple that feeds storms that keeps going over the same areas. A cold front tends to elevate the storms as they travel along it with cooler air rushing in and turning them into a squall line. The big supercells that we saw intensify and kept going usually feeds on a warm front. But there wasn't a warm front, they fed on a boundary. My bet is those storms this morning left the boundary a county to their south while they were moving west to east over Cooke and Grayson counties and east.


Yeah I think it might have been at the intersection between that outflow boundary to the north of DFW and the dry line approaching from the west of DFW. Both of those boundaries seemed to have stalled in that area.
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#310 Postby gboudx » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:38 pm

A silver lining is a lot of this is training over the Lake Lavon watershed with radar estimates showing 2+ inches of rain over a large area.
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#311 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:38 pm

Flash flooding a threat now in some parts of North Texas. Could help bump some lake levels up but it may come at a cost.
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#312 Postby TheProfessor » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:40 pm

Looks like the last line of storms will be moving through lake grapevine soon, hopefully it moves slower so it can drop more rain.
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#313 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:42 pm

Either Lake Ray Roberts, Lake Lewisville or both should see some inflow from the Denton County storms earlier.
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#314 Postby aggiecutter » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:01 pm

The tornado watch in NE Texas, SE Oklahoma, and SW Arkansas has been extended until 4:00 am.
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#315 Postby ravyrn » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:17 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:It costs money. Here is a link with more details: http://grlevelx.com/


Whoops! That is the one I was thinking of! Thanks for sharing!
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#316 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:22 pm

Dangerous couplet moving close to Sulphur Bluff (NE of Sulphur Springs). Tornado warning there.
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#317 Postby Ntxw » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:43 pm

Texarkana needs to keep an eye out for the one that's been making headlines. It's intact and just looks downright scary. Velocity is off the charts, amazing.
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#318 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:54 pm

Ntxw wrote:Texarkana needs to keep an eye out for the one that's been making headlines. It's intact and just looks downright scary. Velocity is off the charts, amazing.


And we're looking at it from a long distance away from the radar sight.
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#319 Postby TheProfessor » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:59 pm

Is there anymore info on the damage near Greenville.
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#320 Postby aggiecutter » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:01 pm

Ntxw wrote:Texarkana needs to keep an eye out for the one that's been making headlines. It's intact and just looks downright scary. Velocity is off the charts, amazing.


Yep, Channel 3 just reported that are 100mph straight line winds reported with this storm, moving to the east at 60mph.
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