New Ecmwf And some added thoughts

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New Ecmwf And some added thoughts

#1 Postby Stormchaser16 » Thu Sep 11, 2003 8:15 pm

To the untrained eye tonights EC *may* appear as a fish storm, but take a closer look and you will the worst natural disaster in centuries in the making for Norfolk. The EC develops a weakness in the west atlantic ridge allowing Issy to turn northwestward around 70 degrees.

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... s!latest!/

But.....

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... s!latest!/

It explodes the high back into New England on day 7, thus preventing any more of a northern motion, therefore pushing it back to the west, one could only imagine the pressure gradient and the winds that would ensue, its shown at cat 3-4 strength however the pressure gradient could amplify any wind situation. This is a pretty scary situation. I am thinking that Issy will begin to lift more WNW with the coming days as Henri begins to influence its path a bit. BUT with the models developing the ridge back in New England its seeming like they dont wanna let Isabel go away. The eat coast is not out of the woods by any means at all yet!
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#2 Postby Rainband » Thu Sep 11, 2003 8:17 pm

One run doesn't show a trend!! :wink:
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#3 Postby Josephine96 » Thu Sep 11, 2003 8:21 pm

I think this would be the biggest natural disaster ever for Florida, before it is for Norfolk...
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#4 Postby Stormchaser16 » Thu Sep 11, 2003 8:21 pm

EC doesnt show anything of a Florida hit.
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#5 Postby Stormsfury » Thu Sep 11, 2003 8:23 pm

The Day 8 EURO absolutely crushes ORF (Norfolk) and get this ... that's a HUGE RIDGE in Eastern Canada (over 1032mb). Stormchaser16 is absolutely reading the EURO description as I would have read it.

Look at the 3 day average - Day 10 mean

http://cyclone.plymouth.edu/cgi-bin/gen ... &cu=latest

EDIT: Though I'm totally not sold on today's model outputs.. even the EURO's idea tonight with such a dramatic shift. Inclinations of a negatively tilted trough clear down to Savannah, GA at this time of year looks suspect though earlier in the period.

SF
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#6 Postby Josephine96 » Thu Sep 11, 2003 8:25 pm

It will hit Florida before it hits VA if it even goes up that far.

This thing has Florida written all over it.. {gives look of worry}...

I wonder if Isabel likes sunshine.. Maybe we won't give her any before she comes calling if she does lol
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#7 Postby Rainband » Thu Sep 11, 2003 8:25 pm

Stormsfury wrote:The Day 8 EURO absolutely crushes ORF (Norfolk) and get this ... that's a HUGE RIDGE in Eastern Canada (over 1032mb). Stormchaser16 is absolutely reading the EURO description as I would have read it.

Look at the 3 day average - Day 10 mean

http://cyclone.plymouth.edu/cgi-bin/gen ... &cu=latest
You as an expert knows "models" aren't accurate after one run!!! :roll: :roll: Trends trends!! :wink:
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#8 Postby Stormsfury » Thu Sep 11, 2003 8:28 pm

Rainband wrote:
Stormsfury wrote:The Day 8 EURO absolutely crushes ORF (Norfolk) and get this ... that's a HUGE RIDGE in Eastern Canada (over 1032mb). Stormchaser16 is absolutely reading the EURO description as I would have read it.

Look at the 3 day average - Day 10 mean

http://cyclone.plymouth.edu/cgi-bin/gen ... &cu=latest
You as an expert knows "models" aren't accurate after one run!!! :roll: :roll: Trends trends!! :wink:


See my edited post above for the full scoop. I'm not sold on today's model runs.

SF
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#9 Postby Rainband » Thu Sep 11, 2003 8:29 pm

Stormsfury wrote:
Rainband wrote:
Stormsfury wrote:The Day 8 EURO absolutely crushes ORF (Norfolk) and get this ... that's a HUGE RIDGE in Eastern Canada (over 1032mb). Stormchaser16 is absolutely reading the EURO description as I would have read it.

Look at the 3 day average - Day 10 mean

http://cyclone.plymouth.edu/cgi-bin/gen ... &cu=latest
You as an expert knows "models" aren't accurate after one run!!! :roll: :roll: Trends trends!! :wink:


See my edited post above for the full scoop. I'm not sold on today's model runs.

SF
Ok!! :wink: Thanks :D
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Re: New Ecmwf And some added thoughts

#10 Postby MWatkins » Thu Sep 11, 2003 8:54 pm

Stormchaser16 wrote:To the untrained eye tonights EC *may* appear as a fish storm, but take a closer look and you will the worst natural disaster in centuries in the making for Norfolk. The EC develops a weakness in the west atlantic ridge allowing Issy to turn northwestward around 70 degrees.


Just kind of shoots north after Monday...this happened in the model on Monday I think...pointed right at New York if I member right...

MW
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#11 Postby Rainband » Thu Sep 11, 2003 9:01 pm

New York then Norfolk...seems to be trending south????? :roll:
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#12 Postby wxman57 » Thu Sep 11, 2003 9:26 pm

Josephine96 wrote:It will hit Florida before it hits VA if it even goes up that far.

This thing has Florida written all over it.. {gives look of worry}...

I wonder if Isabel likes sunshine.. Maybe we won't give her any before she comes calling if she does lol


I'm beginning to think Florida may escape this one, Josephine. I'm tending to agree with an ECMWF solution with the main threat from North Carolina to Long Island or possibly just out to sea.
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#13 Postby Lindaloo » Thu Sep 11, 2003 9:48 pm

Rainband wrote:One run doesn't show a trend!! :wink:


You took my line. lol. But I agree 100%. There is no trend on one run.
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