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Re: 2013 WPAC Season

#301 Postby euro6208 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:08 am

dexterlabio wrote:https://www.facebook.com/notes/ks-weather-and-more/2013-cyclones-and-some-historical-trivia-updated/717613768253276

Are that stats in this page correct? According to this, the latest TSR forecast predicted a below-average season with a TOTAL of 42 tropical cyclones of TS intensity and above. He added 22(TS) + 13(TY) + 7 (major TY) for a total of 42. And according to her stats, the WPAC currently stands at 9 (TS) + 13 (TY) + 8 (major) for a total of 30 tropical cyclones of TS strength and above...which way below a below-average season for her. He is counting the numbers based on the peak intensity a storm had attained. I feel there is something not right.


TSR forecast uses 1 minute average but those stats are from JMA which uses 10 min average. alot of errors in that website too...

here is what it looks like in 1 min...

31 Storms.
27 tropical storms
16 typhoons
10 major typhoon
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Re: 2013 WPAC Season

#302 Postby euro6208 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:28 am

GFS at it again showing a phantom storm developing after 300 hours south of Guam and a track to the west north west towards northern samar.
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Re: 2013 WPAC Season

#303 Postby euro6208 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:48 pm

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GFS still showing an active pattern east of the philippines but very long range and euro doesn't show anything...
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Re: 2013 WPAC Season

#304 Postby euro6208 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:06 pm

Super long range (beyond 300 hours) still saying we might get 2 or 3 more storms in the philippine sea but it keeps getting pushed back...i will start believing it when it gets closer to 100 hours but for now...it's all fantasy :lol:
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Re: 2013 WPAC Season

#305 Postby mrbagyo » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:33 am

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Re: 2013 WPAC Season

#306 Postby euro6208 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:35 am

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looks like we may have a strengthening mjo albeit weak but could potentially develop something...Season not yet over!
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Re: 2013 WPAC Season

#307 Postby euro6208 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:18 pm

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strongest run yet showing 3 tropical cyclones with a formidable looking typhoon passing very near guam in december!

consistency is there that an active spell is likely...
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#308 Postby hurricanes1234 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:05 pm

991 mbar is only a tropical storm/minimal typhoon. I'm not sure if you were looking at another run. :)
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#309 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:11 am

hurricanes1234 wrote:991 mbar is only a tropical storm/minimal typhoon. I'm not sure if you were looking at another run. :)

But GFS predicted to be about 940 mbar at landfall, it actually became <890 mbar.
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#310 Postby hurricanes1234 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:35 am

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:
hurricanes1234 wrote:991 mbar is only a tropical storm/minimal typhoon. I'm not sure if you were looking at another run. :)

But GFS predicted to be about 940 mbar at landfall, it actually became <890 mbar.



For the sake of the people in its path, I hope we don't see another Haiyan. :( :( :(
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#311 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:43 am

hurricanes1234 wrote:
xtyphooncyclonex wrote:
hurricanes1234 wrote:991 mbar is only a tropical storm/minimal typhoon. I'm not sure if you were looking at another run. :)

But GFS predicted to be about 940 mbar at landfall, it actually became <890 mbar.



For the sake of the people in its path, I hope we don't see another Haiyan. :( :( :(

Diri[Dili] unta namon[namo] gusto hin[og] bagyo. Waray[Walay] upay[ayo]!

We do not want typhoons! Not good!
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#312 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:36 am

This season may not be over after all. Long range GFS forecast continues to show a tropical cyclone (maybe a typhoon?) threatening Bicol and Visayas late November-1st week of December.
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#313 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:41 am

dexterlabio wrote:This season may not be over after all. Long range GFS forecast continues to show a tropical cyclone (maybe a typhoon?) threatening Bicol and Visayas late November-1st week of December.

Moving straight west SLOWLY. AS A SUPER TYPHOON.

POSSIBLY OVER ABUYOG LEYTE.
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Re: 2013 WPAC Season

#314 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:37 am

Nooooo Leyte again?? Though the track looks like more to Northern Samar than Leyte. I just checked the 06z GFS and it now shows 2 cyclones in the long range. The first one is the same phantom storm in the previous runs threatening Samar and Bicol. The run ends with the second system passing close to Guam.
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Re: 2013 WPAC Season

#315 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:57 am

dexterlabio wrote:Nooooo Leyte again?? Though the track looks like more to Northern Samar than Leyte. I just checked the 06z GFS and it now shows 2 cyclones in the long range. The first one is the same phantom storm in the previous runs threatening Samar and Bicol. The run ends with the second system passing close to Guam.

I meant [for the second storm] that because the STR is pushing it to the west, so SOUTHERN SAMAR and Leyte. And you can see the difference, the WSW jog from 348-384 hours.
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Re: 2013 WPAC Season

#316 Postby euro6208 » Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:00 am

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what a mess out there...
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Re: 2013 WPAC Season

#317 Postby euro6208 » Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:21 am

Development looks like a reality now in the 189 hour range compared to a few days ago when it was showing development in fantasy land aka +300 hours...

It's getting closer :wink:
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Re: 2013 WPAC Season

#318 Postby dexterlabio » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:58 am

still 2 cyclones shown in 06z GFS. But atmospheric conditions right now in the Philippine sea shouldn't be conducive for development of strong systems, right? Cool and dry air from the northeast monsoon is being felt even in Manila. And I heard typhoons are not fond of dry air. lol.
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Re: 2013 WPAC Season

#319 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:56 am

dexterlabio wrote:still 2 cyclones shown in 06z GFS. But atmospheric conditions right now in the Philippine sea shouldn't be conducive for development of strong systems, right? Cool and dry air from the northeast monsoon is being felt even in Manila. And I heard typhoons are not fond of dry air. lol.

Well, the STR might push it south of the track [which has more favorable conditions] and is a good place [North Visayas has strong shear but South Visayas has weaker shear] but the sea surface temperatures over most of the West Pacific may be powering the storm[s].

But we are traumatized even if Super typhoon Haiyan was about 120 km to the north of us. It produced gusts of up to 130 km/h.
Here is an image on the decreasing shear [blue broken ''lines'' ].
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Steering winds. By the way, what is that area of Vorticity ESE of Guam?
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We hope to see our fellow countrymen rise again after a series of calamities - Typhoon Utor, Typhoon Nari, Bohol-Cebu earthquake-aftershocks, Manila floods and Typhoon Haiyan.
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Re: 2013 WPAC Season

#320 Postby euro6208 » Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:34 am

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Twin cyclone landfall, Northern Mindanao/Southern Visayas and Guam!

mmm got me thinking, could we witness another Super Typhoon Paka/Pongsona back in 1997 and 2002 which both damaged guam in december?

:double:
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