WPAC: HAIYAN - Post-Tropical
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Re: WPAC: HAIYAN - Tropical Depression
JMA downgrades to TD and is last warning.
TD
Issued at 12:50 UTC, 11 November 2013
<Analyses at 11/12 UTC>
Scale -
Intensity -
TD
Center position N23°00'(23.0°)
E107°00'(107.0°)
Direction and speed of movement N 20km/h(10kt)
Central pressure 1008hPa
TD
Issued at 12:50 UTC, 11 November 2013
<Analyses at 11/12 UTC>
Scale -
Intensity -
TD
Center position N23°00'(23.0°)
E107°00'(107.0°)
Direction and speed of movement N 20km/h(10kt)
Central pressure 1008hPa
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Re: WPAC: HAIYAN - Tropical Depression
Much suffering going on right now. 255,000 homeless and climbing and surgery for bad wounds going on without anesthetic.
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Re: WPAC: HAIYAN - Tropical Depression
Here are the latest figures from the authorities and other sources.


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The victims in this disaster have been through hell and will have to endure a difficult recovery and the Philippines cannot do this without international help. Rebuilding will take years, possibly decades and in time there will be the opportunity to improve their readiness - hopefully so this never happens again.
I think the Philippines government needs to review their processes and warning systems for dealing with natural disasters. Only one other country has more natural disasters, Japan. The Philippines government should be able to learn something from the Japanese experience and improve their systems to cope better with natural disasters.
Recently the Japanese introduced an emergency warning signal for use in extreme emergencies (Australia also has a similar system) - the Philippines should consider such a system.
The Philippines should look at practice disaster drills, similar to what the Japanese do and there will be other ways to improve how they can cope with natural disasters.
It is important that I emphasize that I am not suggesting that the Philippines should be able to recover without outside help - the enormity of this disaster is overwhelming and no country could ever expect to completely recover from anything of this scale. The Philippines does need international aid, and though I was initially ashamed at the initial response by the Australian government I am more pleased to read that they multiplied it by 20X today.
Finally, I have re-read most of this thread from the beginning. This sentence is to acknowledge people who posted in this thread who experienced the awful disaster as it unfolded, and it is possible that some of these people haven't survived the experience. I truly hope this is not the case, but we have to be realistic - there are several who were in Tacloban City.
To previous posters in this thread who were impacted by this awful disaster, if you do have the opportunity to post a message in this thread - I think there would be many who would be very pleased to read it.
I think the Philippines government needs to review their processes and warning systems for dealing with natural disasters. Only one other country has more natural disasters, Japan. The Philippines government should be able to learn something from the Japanese experience and improve their systems to cope better with natural disasters.
Recently the Japanese introduced an emergency warning signal for use in extreme emergencies (Australia also has a similar system) - the Philippines should consider such a system.
The Philippines should look at practice disaster drills, similar to what the Japanese do and there will be other ways to improve how they can cope with natural disasters.
It is important that I emphasize that I am not suggesting that the Philippines should be able to recover without outside help - the enormity of this disaster is overwhelming and no country could ever expect to completely recover from anything of this scale. The Philippines does need international aid, and though I was initially ashamed at the initial response by the Australian government I am more pleased to read that they multiplied it by 20X today.
Finally, I have re-read most of this thread from the beginning. This sentence is to acknowledge people who posted in this thread who experienced the awful disaster as it unfolded, and it is possible that some of these people haven't survived the experience. I truly hope this is not the case, but we have to be realistic - there are several who were in Tacloban City.
To previous posters in this thread who were impacted by this awful disaster, if you do have the opportunity to post a message in this thread - I think there would be many who would be very pleased to read it.
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Re: WPAC: HAIYAN - Tropical Depression
Posted:2013-11-07, 13:18:01 [UTC]
Ref.no.: TC-20131107-41557-PHL
Situation Update No. 6
On 2013-11-11 at 04:08:24 [UTC]
Event: Tropical Storm
Location: Iloilo City Western Visayas Philippines
Number of Deads: 10000 person(s)
Number of Injured: 100 person(s)
Number of Missing: 4 person(s)
Number of Evacuated: 330900 person(s)
Number of Infected: 0 person(s)
Situation:
Tacloban City in Leyte province was placed under a state of emergency on Monday, days after it was devastated by Super Typhoon Yolanda (Haiyan) last weekend. A curfew of 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. was imposed on residents to curb looting and other incidents of lawlessness, radio dzBB's Sam Nielsen reported. Tacloban City was one of the areas hit hardest by Yolanda, which devastated parts of the Visayas and Southern Luzon before exiting the Philippines last Saturday. Suggestions for a state of emergency stemmed from looting and other forms of lawlessness last weekend. Last Sunday, the Philippine National Police and Armed Forces of the Philippines sent additional personnel to Tacloban City to ensure peace and order there. Earlier, it was reported that in Medellin town in Cebu, the municipal council held a special session at 10 a.m. Sunday to declare a state of calamity in the area.
Ref.no.: TC-20131107-41557-PHL
Situation Update No. 6
On 2013-11-11 at 04:08:24 [UTC]
Event: Tropical Storm
Location: Iloilo City Western Visayas Philippines
Number of Deads: 10000 person(s)
Number of Injured: 100 person(s)
Number of Missing: 4 person(s)
Number of Evacuated: 330900 person(s)
Number of Infected: 0 person(s)
Situation:
Tacloban City in Leyte province was placed under a state of emergency on Monday, days after it was devastated by Super Typhoon Yolanda (Haiyan) last weekend. A curfew of 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. was imposed on residents to curb looting and other incidents of lawlessness, radio dzBB's Sam Nielsen reported. Tacloban City was one of the areas hit hardest by Yolanda, which devastated parts of the Visayas and Southern Luzon before exiting the Philippines last Saturday. Suggestions for a state of emergency stemmed from looting and other forms of lawlessness last weekend. Last Sunday, the Philippine National Police and Armed Forces of the Philippines sent additional personnel to Tacloban City to ensure peace and order there. Earlier, it was reported that in Medellin town in Cebu, the municipal council held a special session at 10 a.m. Sunday to declare a state of calamity in the area.
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Filipinos will rise up again and be stronger than ever....
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Re: WPAC: HAIYAN - Tropical Depression
As for this monster itself, do you think its pressure will be lowered upon reviewing it? I would guess it's in the range of 880-890 mbar because of its low latitude.
As for the Philippines, I really hope they recover soon. I have no words to describe how horrible and hellish the experience must be for them.
As for the Philippines, I really hope they recover soon. I have no words to describe how horrible and hellish the experience must be for them.
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hurricanes1234 wrote:As for this monster itself, do you think its pressure will be lowered upon reviewing it? I would guess it's in the range of 880-890 mbar because of its low latitude.
As for the Philippines, I really hope they recover soon. I have no words to describe how horrible and hellish the experience must be for them.

i've never seen such devastation that is equivalent to the indian ocean tsunami. the debarking of trees means winds were likely in the 180-185 knot range and pressure of 879-850mb range. JTWC report will be very interesting....
look at all those debarked trees! wow!
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As for the Philippines, they are one of the more developed countries in Asia, I'm sure they will recover fast, no doubt that they will get aid from other countries
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Hurricane_Luis wrote::uarrow: Incredible how there is just Twigs sticking out of the ground. No bark. No leaves. For the people that live there it must have been a really horrible experience.
As for the Philippines, they are one of the more developed countries in Asia, I'm sure they will recover fast, no doubt that they will get aid from other countries
UK will send ship
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Re: WPAC: HAIYAN - Post-Tropical
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This is NOT an official best track, but given all the data I have seen and past storms, here is how I would set it (Revised 2017 for new reports and further analysis):
November 3
1200 6.5N 155.2E 30 kt / 1010 mb
1800 6.4N 153.5E 30 kt / 1009 mb
November 4
0000 6.3N 151.9E 35 kt / 1008 mb
0600 6.3N 150.4E 40 kt / 1006 mb
1200 6.4N 149.1E 45 kt / 1003 mb
1800 6.5N 147.6E 55 kt / 998 mb
November 5
0000 6.5N 145.8E 65 kt / 992 mb
0600 6.6N 144.4E 80 kt / 982 mb
1200 6.8N 142.9E 100 kt / 966 mb
1800 7.2N 141.3E 120 kt / 950 mb
November 6
0000 7.4N 139.6E 135 kt / 935 mb
0600 7.7N 137.9E 145 kt / 926 mb
1200 7.9N 136.1E 150 kt / 921 mb
1630 8.1N 134.7E 155 kt / 915 mb Landfall, Kayangel Island
1800 8.1N 134.3E 160 kt / 911 mb
November 7
0000 8.7N 132.7E 165 kt / 905 mb
0600 9.4N 131.1E 170 kt / 899 mb
1200 10.2N 128.9E 180 kt / 888 mb
1800 10.6N 126.9E 185 kt / 882 mb Max wind and min pressure
2045 11.0N 125.8E 180 kt / 888 mb Landfall, N end of Calicoan Island
2130 11.0N 125.6E 175 kt / 890 mb Landfall, Manicani Island
2310 11.0N 125.0E 165 kt / 895 mb Landfall, near Tolosa, Leyte Island
November 8
0000 11.1N 124.8E 155 kt / 901 mb
0200 11.1N 124.0E 140 kt / 912 mb Landfall, near Tindog, Cebu Island
0230 11.2N 123.8E 135 kt / 914 mb Landfall, near Santa Fe, Bantayan Island
0400 11.3N 123.1E 130 kt / 922 mb Landfall, S of Batad, Panay Island
0600 11.4N 122.3E 120 kt / 929 mb
1200 11.9N 120.3E 110 kt / 937 mb Landfall, near Coron Town, Busuanga Island
1800 12.3N 118.4E 105 kt / 939 mb
November 9
0000 12.5N 116.4E 100 kt / 940 mb
0600 13.2N 114.8E 100 kt / 938 mb
1200 14.5N 113.5E 95 kt / 941 mb
1800 15.7N 111.5E 85 kt / 947 mb
November 10
0000 16.5N 110.3E 85 kt / 949 mb
0600 17.9N 108.9E 80 kt / 952 mb
1200 19.3N 108.0E 75 kt / 955 mb
1800 20.6N 107.3E 70 kt / 957 mb
1930 20.9N 107.1E 70 kt / 958 mb Landfall, Ha Long
November 11
0000 22.0N 107.4E 55 kt / 970 mb
0600 22.5N 106.8E 35 kt / 987 mb
1200 23.1N 106.6E 30 kt / 997 mb
1800 23.4N 106.2E 30 kt / 999 mb Extratropical
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This is NOT an official best track, but given all the data I have seen and past storms, here is how I would set it (Revised 2017 for new reports and further analysis):
November 3
1200 6.5N 155.2E 30 kt / 1010 mb
1800 6.4N 153.5E 30 kt / 1009 mb
November 4
0000 6.3N 151.9E 35 kt / 1008 mb
0600 6.3N 150.4E 40 kt / 1006 mb
1200 6.4N 149.1E 45 kt / 1003 mb
1800 6.5N 147.6E 55 kt / 998 mb
November 5
0000 6.5N 145.8E 65 kt / 992 mb
0600 6.6N 144.4E 80 kt / 982 mb
1200 6.8N 142.9E 100 kt / 966 mb
1800 7.2N 141.3E 120 kt / 950 mb
November 6
0000 7.4N 139.6E 135 kt / 935 mb
0600 7.7N 137.9E 145 kt / 926 mb
1200 7.9N 136.1E 150 kt / 921 mb
1630 8.1N 134.7E 155 kt / 915 mb Landfall, Kayangel Island
1800 8.1N 134.3E 160 kt / 911 mb
November 7
0000 8.7N 132.7E 165 kt / 905 mb
0600 9.4N 131.1E 170 kt / 899 mb
1200 10.2N 128.9E 180 kt / 888 mb
1800 10.6N 126.9E 185 kt / 882 mb Max wind and min pressure
2045 11.0N 125.8E 180 kt / 888 mb Landfall, N end of Calicoan Island
2130 11.0N 125.6E 175 kt / 890 mb Landfall, Manicani Island
2310 11.0N 125.0E 165 kt / 895 mb Landfall, near Tolosa, Leyte Island
November 8
0000 11.1N 124.8E 155 kt / 901 mb
0200 11.1N 124.0E 140 kt / 912 mb Landfall, near Tindog, Cebu Island
0230 11.2N 123.8E 135 kt / 914 mb Landfall, near Santa Fe, Bantayan Island
0400 11.3N 123.1E 130 kt / 922 mb Landfall, S of Batad, Panay Island
0600 11.4N 122.3E 120 kt / 929 mb
1200 11.9N 120.3E 110 kt / 937 mb Landfall, near Coron Town, Busuanga Island
1800 12.3N 118.4E 105 kt / 939 mb
November 9
0000 12.5N 116.4E 100 kt / 940 mb
0600 13.2N 114.8E 100 kt / 938 mb
1200 14.5N 113.5E 95 kt / 941 mb
1800 15.7N 111.5E 85 kt / 947 mb
November 10
0000 16.5N 110.3E 85 kt / 949 mb
0600 17.9N 108.9E 80 kt / 952 mb
1200 19.3N 108.0E 75 kt / 955 mb
1800 20.6N 107.3E 70 kt / 957 mb
1930 20.9N 107.1E 70 kt / 958 mb Landfall, Ha Long
November 11
0000 22.0N 107.4E 55 kt / 970 mb
0600 22.5N 106.8E 35 kt / 987 mb
1200 23.1N 106.6E 30 kt / 997 mb
1800 23.4N 106.2E 30 kt / 999 mb Extratropical
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Re: WPAC: HAIYAN - Post-Tropical
SUGGESTION: Even though Haiyan is no longer a tropical cyclone, is it possible we could still keep this thread active for a while again, so as to keep everyone here updated? This is a very significant system, in both damage and records, so it would be nice to maintain the thread for a couple months, especially when the tropical cyclone report is released, and to discuss what will be happening in the Philippines. Personally, I think if we keep the discussion alive, it will paint Haiyan's entire story. This is just my personal opinion.
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Re: WPAC: HAIYAN - Typhoon-JTWC 21:00 UTC warning up to 170kts
cycloneye wrote:I saved this historic moment on the very first post on page 1 of the thread. This thread will be an archieve one to remember and seen for decades. After Haiyan turns Post-Tropical it will be a few days in this forum and thereafter,it will be moved to the Archieves forum.
viewtopic.php?f=76&t=115958&start=0
Archieves forum
hurricanes1234,I posted the above on November 7 at 3:17 PM.

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Re: WPAC: HAIYAN - Post-Tropical
This was such a monster, I wonder if it would have had the pinhole eye how much stronger it would have been. I read it had a 30m wide eye. Typically I have seen the lower pressure systems with the pinhole eye such as Wilma, Tip, and Gilbert to name a few.
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Re: WPAC: HAIYAN - Post-Tropical
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This is NOT an official best track, but given all the data I have seen and past storms, here is how I would set it:
November 3
1200 6.5N 155.2E 30 kt / 1008 mb
1800 6.4N 153.5E 30 kt / 1007 mb
November 4
0000 6.3N 151.9E 35 kt / 1005 mb
0600 6.3N 150.4E 40 kt / 1004 mb
1200 6.4N 149.1E 45 kt / 1002 mb
1800 6.5N 147.6E 55 kt / 997 mb
November 5
0000 6.5N 145.8E 65 kt / 991 mb
0600 6.6N 144.4E 80 kt / 981 mb
1200 6.8N 142.9E 100 kt / 964 mb
1800 7.2N 141.3E 120 kt / 950 mb
November 6
0000 7.4N 139.6E 130 kt / 937 mb
0600 7.7N 137.9E 140 kt / 927 mb
1200 7.9N 136.1E 145 kt / 922 mb
1800 8.2N 134.3E 155 kt / 914 mb
November 7
0000 8.7N 132.7E 160 kt / 908 mb
0600 9.4N 131.1E 165 kt / 902 mb
1200 10.2N 128.9E 175 kt / 893 mb
1800 10.6N 126.9E 180 kt / 888 mb Max wind and min pressure
2100 11.0N 125.8E 175 kt / 889 mb Landfall, N end of Calicoan Island
2145 11.0N 125.6E 170 kt / 891 mb Landfall, Manicani Island
November 8
0000 11.0N 125.0E 165 kt / 895 mb Landfall, near Tolosa, Leyte Island
0230 11.1N 124.0E 145 kt / 908 mb Landfall, near Tindog, Cebu Island
0250 11.2N 123.8E 140 kt / 912 mb Landfall, near Santa Fe, Bantayan Island
0430 11.3N 123.1E 135 kt / 916 mb Landfall, S of Batad, Panay Island
0600 11.4N 122.4E 125 kt / 924 mb
1200 11.9N 120.3E 110 kt / 934 mb Landfall, near Coron Town, Busuanga Island
1800 12.3N 118.4E 105 kt / 935 mb
November 9
0000 12.5N 116.4E 100 kt / 938 mb
0600 13.2N 114.8E 100 kt / 936 mb
1200 14.5N 113.5E 95 kt / 940 mb
1800 15.7N 111.5E 85 kt / 945 mb
November 10
0000 16.5N 110.3E 85 kt / 947 mb
0600 17.9N 108.9E 80 kt / 950 mb
1200 19.3N 108.0E 75 kt / 954 mb
1800 20.6N 107.3E 70 kt / 957 mb
1930 20.9N 107.1E 70 kt / 958 mb Landfall, Ha Long
November 11
0000 22.0N 107.4E 55 kt / 970 mb
0600 22.5N 106.8E 35 kt / 987 mb
1200 23.1N 106.6E 30 kt / 997 mb
1800 23.4N 106.2E 30 kt / 999 mb Extratropical
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Re: WPAC: HAIYAN - Post-Tropical
There goes the U.S on the relief to those in need.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States will send the USS George Washington aircraft carrier to support relief efforts in the Philippines, as the U.S. military ramps assistance after a devastating typhoon killed an estimated 10,000 people, a U.S. defense official told Reuters on Monday.
The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, could not immediately provide further details.
The aircraft carrier has been on a port visit to Hong Kong.
http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-u-aircr ... 35862.html

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States will send the USS George Washington aircraft carrier to support relief efforts in the Philippines, as the U.S. military ramps assistance after a devastating typhoon killed an estimated 10,000 people, a U.S. defense official told Reuters on Monday.
The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, could not immediately provide further details.
The aircraft carrier has been on a port visit to Hong Kong.
http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-u-aircr ... 35862.html
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