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#301 Postby Andrew92 » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:56 pm

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It was me who posted about a dream about a storm named Karen. This is not the first time I have had a dream about a certain storm with a name, and see that scenario come into reality nearly exactly according to the dream. The same thing happened last year with two other storms I had a dream about, and the reality played almost perfectly according to the dream. It happened with another storms several years back too. I just cannot explain how this happens when it does! However, I seem to recall my dream had Karen as a hurricane, which seems like a stretch now given what the upper atmosphere should look like as it heads to the north.

We'll see what happens I guess. The only thing I can figure is I think this is definitely heading towards the US, probably as a sheared system. Then again, in another post or two I know I made, I suggested the best chance of a US hurricane was in October on a track like the one this system might be taking. Just can't see this one being a hurricane, but my head (not my gut) could be wrong.

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#302 Postby Hammy » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:00 pm

Whatever rotation is there looks at least better defined than on the first pass, and it still appears to be organizing on satellite. Still an hour left before any advisory would be issued, so who knows what could happen in that time.
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#303 Postby hurricanes1234 » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:03 pm

Then you should post your tropical cyclone dreams anytime you have them! :lol: We're interested to hear about it. :)

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It was me who posted about a dream about a storm named Karen. This is not the first time I have had a dream about a certain storm with a name, and see that scenario come into reality nearly exactly according to the dream. The same thing happened last year with two other storms I had a dream about, and the reality played almost perfectly according to the dream. It happened with another storms several years back too. I just cannot explain how this happens when it does! However, I seem to recall my dream had Karen as a hurricane, which seems like a stretch now given what the upper atmosphere should look like as it heads to the north.

We'll see what happens I guess. The only thing I can figure is I think this is definitely heading towards the US, probably as a sheared system. Then again, in another post or two I know I made, I suggested the best chance of a US hurricane was in October on a track like the one this system might be taking. Just can't see this one being a hurricane, but my head (not my gut) could be wrong.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - 70% / 70%

#304 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:04 pm

18z Best Track updated the winds up to 35kts.

AL 97 2013100218 BEST 0 191N 858W 35 1007 DB
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - 70% / 70%

#305 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:06 pm

TD now?

cycloneye wrote:18z Best Track updated the winds up to 35kts.

AL 97 2013100218 BEST 0 191N 858W 35 1007 DB
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#306 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:07 pm

Hammy wrote:
ScottNAtlanta wrote:There was someone a couple of "invests" ago that said the have a dream/premonition about the "K" storm. I wish I could remember who it was, but if this deepens significantly in the YC, I'd like to know what he thinks about a couple of investments...lol, cause he had it just about where its going to be...and this was weeks ago. So, if you are out there...speak up! I'm still looking for the post


I remember the post as well, I believe it was in the "thoughts on season" thread.


I was thinking model discussion..but will look there as well.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - 70% / 70%

#307 Postby hurricanes1234 » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:07 pm

Stormcenter wrote:TD now?

cycloneye wrote:18z Best Track updated the winds up to 35kts.

AL 97 2013100218 BEST 0 191N 858W 35 1007 DB


Maybe even a TS since 35 knots is a minimal TS.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - 70% / 70%

#308 Postby 'CaneFreak » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:07 pm

Nope. Still numbered 97L.

Stormcenter wrote:TD now?

cycloneye wrote:18z Best Track updated the winds up to 35kts.

AL 972013100218 BEST 0 191N 858W 35 1007 DB
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - 70% / 70%

#309 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:09 pm

'CaneFreak wrote:Nope. Still numbered 97L.

Stormcenter wrote:TD now?

cycloneye wrote:18z Best Track updated the winds up to 35kts.

AL 972013100218 BEST 0 191N 858W 35 1007 DB


Yeah no renumber.. they are finding multiple vorts.. I bet it develops a better defined llc to the NE near the convection overnight.
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#310 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:10 pm

Andrew92 wrote:The following post is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

It was me who posted about a dream about a storm named Karen. This is not the first time I have had a dream about a certain storm with a name, and see that scenario come into reality nearly exactly according to the dream. The same thing happened last year with two other storms I had a dream about, and the reality played almost perfectly according to the dream. It happened with another storms several years back too. I just cannot explain how this happens when it does! However, I seem to recall my dream had Karen as a hurricane, which seems like a stretch now given what the upper atmosphere should look like as it heads to the north.

We'll see what happens I guess. The only thing I can figure is I think this is definitely heading towards the US, probably as a sheared system. Then again, in another post or two I know I made, I suggested the best chance of a US hurricane was in October on a track like the one this system might be taking. Just can't see this one being a hurricane, but my head (not my gut) could be wrong.

-Andrew92


Just saw this...guess I dont need to look...just refresh this page more often :oops:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - 70% / 70%

#311 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:10 pm

Stormcenter wrote:TD now?

cycloneye wrote:18z Best Track updated the winds up to 35kts.

AL 97 2013100218 BEST 0 191N 858W 35 1007 DB


Still no renumber to TD 12 or TS Karen. Depends on what Recon finds during the rest of mission.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - 70% / 70%

#312 Postby lester » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:10 pm

Stormcenter wrote:TD now?

cycloneye wrote:18z Best Track updated the winds up to 35kts.

AL 97 2013100218 BEST 0 191N 858W 35 1007 DB


No, still an invest, if they upgraded it would be Tropical Storm Karen (which in my opinion I don't see happening today)
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#313 Postby Hammy » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:13 pm

Out of curiosity, will the next flight be during DMAX?
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#314 Postby hurricanes1234 » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:14 pm

No, I meant if it were renumbered at 5PM, it would likely jump straight to a TS, since it has the wind speed of a low-end tropical storm. :)
But as of now, it's still an invest, just with TS-force winds.
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#315 Postby 'CaneFreak » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:14 pm

Agreed. This is usually the case and makes the most sense given the situation.

Aric Dunn wrote:Yeah no renumber.. they are finding multiple vorts.. I bet it develops a better defined llc to the NE near the convection overnight.
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#316 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:15 pm

Hammy wrote:Out of curiosity, will the next flight be during DMAX?


Yes.

FLIGHT TWO -- TEAL 71
A. 03/0600Z
B. AFXXX 0212A CYCLONE
C. 03/0300Z
D. 21N 86W
E. 0530-1000Z
E. SFC TO 10,000FT
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#317 Postby Alyono » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:17 pm

cycloneye wrote:
Hammy wrote:Out of curiosity, will the next flight be during DMAX?


Yes.

FLIGHT TWO -- TEAL 71
A. 03/0600Z
B. AFXXX 0212A CYCLONE
C. 03/0300Z
D. 21N 86W
E. 0530-1000Z
E. SFC TO 10,000FT


They hardly ever fly invests at night. Next flight would be tomorrow afternoon if no upgrade
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion - 70% / 70%

#318 Postby BUCMAN48 » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:19 pm

Aric,

If there is a reformation of the LLC to the NE, how drastically if any would that change the
track? Thank you- Go Rays!
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#319 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:35 pm

Far too broad for classification at this time. However, the center has been in the process of relocating to the northeast over the past few hours and the satellite appearance is steadily improving. We should have an intensifying tropical storm by this time tomorrow.
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#320 Postby tropicwatch » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:44 pm

Pressures seem to be falling pretty nicely looking at the observations coming out of the HH's.
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