Thoughts on 2013 Atlantic Hurricane Season

YouTube · #701 Postby **hurricanetrack** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:05 pm

Oh no! Not the Newfoundland Wheel!!! Anything but that!

#702 Postby **Hybridstorm_November2001** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:13 pm

hurricanetrack wrote:Oh no! Not the Newfoundland Wheel!!! Anything but that!

I've devoted much of my free time to studying NE Hurricanes, but what the hell is the 'Newfoundland Wheel'?

#703 Postby **Hybridstorm_November2001** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:28 pm

ninel conde wrote:2 minutes to JB!! SAYS the newfoundland wheel is coming and this was like the 50's!!

Doesn't Big Joe always say every season will be like the '1950s' at some point. :lol:

ninel conde · #704 Postby **ninel conde** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:44 pm

the newfoundland wheel is a strong stationary ridge of high pressure over se canada. it forces tropical systems to move west around it causing landfalls.

#705 Postby **Hybridstorm_November2001** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:50 pm

ninel conde wrote:the newfoundland wheel is a strong stationary ridge of high pressure over se canada. it forces tropical systems to move west around it causing landfalls.

I've honestly never heard this term before. I wonder if it is something Bastardi invented........

ninel conde · #706 Postby **ninel conde** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:00 pm

Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:
ninel conde wrote:the newfoundland wheel is a strong stationary ridge of high pressure over se canada. it forces tropical systems to move west around it causing landfalls.

I've honestly never heard this term before. I wonder if it is something Bastardi invented........

its a term used by old time metros

#707 Postby **Hybridstorm_November2001** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:06 pm

ninel conde wrote:
Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:
ninel conde wrote:the newfoundland wheel is a strong stationary ridge of high pressure over se canada. it forces tropical systems to move west around it causing landfalls.

I've honestly never heard this term before. I wonder if it is something Bastardi invented........

its a term used by old time metros

Odd, I cut my teeth (in the 1980s' & early 1990s') on old books from the 1920's - 1950s' and I've never seen that term....

Hammy · #708 Postby **Hammy** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:18 pm

i googled the term with meteorology, does not seem to exist outside of Bastardi's lingo.

TheStormExpert · #709 Postby **TheStormExpert** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:57 pm

I'm guessing the Newfoundland Wheel is what steered Sandy into the Northeast?

Cyclenall · #710 Postby **Cyclenall** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:56 pm

I said I would update those stats I outlined last Wednesday or so today but I don't have time for that so either tomorrow or Wednesday I'll post an update.

Alyono wrote:thoughts are

Based upon some of the things on the T storms list... this season may be well below average. Some talk of strong westerly shear setting up in mid September

Fantastic! Now after waiting an eternity for something interesting, we're met with maybe a few TS's and then the winter-like pattern setting up shop anything else for the season :team:

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galaxy401 wrote:Oh my three yellow circles in the Atlantic! So weird to see right now!

Yes, 3 yellow, pathetic systems.

ninel conde wrote:major news!! joe bastardi will be on fox news between 4-5 pm eastern to let us know how the remainder of the cane season will unfold.

I'll be sure to miss it.

ninel conde wrote:2 minutes to JB!! SAYS the newfoundland wheel is coming and this was like the 50's!!

A pattern coming like the 1950s? This isn't news, I've been hearing it from him since '06.

Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:Doesn't Big Joe always say every season will be like the '1950s' at some point.

Your correct :rofl:

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Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:
ninel conde wrote:the newfoundland wheel is a strong stationary ridge of high pressure over se canada. it forces tropical systems to move west around it causing landfalls.

I've honestly never heard this term before. I wonder if it is something Bastardi invented........

That's exactly what I was just going to say, haven't heard it either.

Hammy wrote:i googled the term with meteorology, does not seem to exist outside of Bastardi's lingo.

Wow, shocking :lol:

. Its JB's only and purely.

CYCLONE MIKE · #711 Postby **CYCLONE MIKE** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:21 pm

Ninel conde,

Not that it matters much because everyone has been wrong so far this season but what was his big breaking news on his interview this afternoon?

ninel conde · #712 Postby **ninel conde** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:59 pm

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:Ninel conde,

Not that it matters much because everyone has been wrong so far this season but what was his big breaking news on his interview this afternoon?

he talked about the newfoundland wheel and how a high is going to build over se canada. also said everyone was saying winter was over last season then winter came back late. he didnt mention any specific system developing.

ConvergenceZone · #713 Postby **ConvergenceZone** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:07 pm

The way that even Invests out there seem to be struggling this year in early September, you would swear it was June or something......

TheStormExpert · #714 Postby **TheStormExpert** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:33 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:The way that even Invests out there seem to be struggling this year in early September, you would swear it was June or something......

Even back in June the waves that came off Africa were looking a whole lot more healthy and vigorous. Just goes to show you that YOU CAN'T judge what a season will be like (even the Cape Verde season) just by what happens in June and July or even as early as May. Things back than looked a whole lot more better with the stronger than normal waves indicating a possibly active to very active season. Now look where we are at! :roll:

TheStormExpert · #715 Postby **TheStormExpert** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:39 pm

Since my interest of hurricanes started back in 2004 after experiencing Hurricanes Frances & Jeanne in just 2-3 weeks apart (that was one hell of a season!). This has been the most annoying, depressing, frustrating, and biggest joke of a season ever! Mostly due to the forecasters predicting an above average season which now seems very unlikely. :lol:

Hammy · #716 Postby **Hammy** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:42 pm

For me what has been more frustrating than anything, is the constant delaying of development by the models. There has been nothing to latch on to so they just start using their imagination, get our hopes up for development, then at the last minute "nope, time to wait two more weeks." I am beginning to think we are going to go most of the way through September without anything but a few weak short-lived systems at this point.

FireRat · #717 Postby **FireRat** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:01 pm

Wow y'all, I'm really starting to think that either this is a big joke of a season or that we're all in the dark as to what may come after a week's time. Man, something's gotta give right?...it's a bit too calm in ALL the world's basins in what is supposed to be the PEAK time for tropical cyclones in both Pacific and Atlantic. I'll be darned if nothing big blows up in either basin by month's end.

LaBreeze · #718 Postby **LaBreeze** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:11 pm

Seems like this is the season for "poof systems", BOC, and fishing.

ConvergenceZone · #719 Postby **ConvergenceZone** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:14 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:The way that even Invests out there seem to be struggling this year in early September, you would swear it was June or something......

Even back in June the waves that came off Africa were looking a whole lot more healthy and vigorous. Just goes to show you that YOU CAN'T judge what a season will be like (even the Cape Verde season) just by what happens in June and July or even as early as May. Things back than looked a whole lot more better with the stronger than normal waves indicating a possibly active to very active season. Now look where we are at!

Well, with much of this, the media is to blame for filling our heads about how so incredibly active of a year it would be. If they wouldn't have said anything, expectations wouldn't be so high, LOL....

I'm still sticking with low numbers that seems to be shrinking every week. In my opinion we might get a depression or even tropical storm out of 97L, but that's probably about it. Then we'll have to see if anything else develops or if we will slide into October without any further development.

Disclaimer: These are my opinions only based upon my own observations. I'm not a meteorologist...

ConvergenceZone · #720 Postby **ConvergenceZone** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:19 pm

LaBreeze wrote:Seems like this is the season for "poof systems", BOC, and fishing.

That's the thing, I mean it seems like gone are the Days of watching systems spin up rapidly in the Atlantic without any mention of dry air or shear. It's great for land, but I just want to see some good one spin up and going out to sea is fine with me. It's the various stages of watching them develop and hearing people on the board giving their insights and predictions that makes it enjoyable, that's exciting. Luckily I was able to catch a few of the Pacific ones spin up earlier in the season, so at least I got some enjoyment from those.....

It just seems like over the last couple of years, if it's not dry air, then it's shear, if it's not shear, then it's a ULL in the vicinity, LOL....

On a side note, I've never ever seen this storm2k board so this deserted and dead at the peak of hurricane season as I have this year..... I mean, usually there's something going on out there, other than a couple of Invests that may or may not develop.

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