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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#241 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:43 am

Some new convection rebuilding near the circulation.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#242 Postby blp » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:45 am

Well there is a little more interest now.

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#243 Postby gatorcane » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:45 am

The 144 hour GFS mid-level steering is shown below. It shows more ridging than the ECMWF over the Western Atlantic (even if you look at the ECMWF at 144 hours).

That circle just north of the Eastern part of Cuba is 95L:

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#244 Postby gatorcane » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:52 am

95L doesn't seem like it is gaining much latitude looking at the VIS loops today.
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#245 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:05 am

That convective burst near the circulation center looks pretty impressive. I would think if the convection can sustain itself, this is easily a TD imo, bordering on a minimum TS.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#246 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:10 am

First mission on Monday afternoon.

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REPRPD
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1200 PM EDT SUN 07 JULY 2013
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
         VALID 08/1100Z TO 09/1100Z JULY 2013
         TCPOD NUMBER.....13-037

I.  ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
    1. SUSPECT AREA (NEAR WINDWARD ISLANDS)
       FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 70      FLIGHT TWO -- TEAL 71
       A. 08/2100Z                A. 09/1200Z,1800Z
       B. AFXXX 01BBA INVEST      B. AFXXX 0203A CYCLONE
       C. 08/1815Z                C. 09/1030Z
       D. 12.5N 54.7W             D. 14.0N 60.8W
       E. 08/2030Z TO 09/0030Z    E. 09/1130Z TO 09/1800Z
       F. RESOURCES PERMITTING

    2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY: CONTINUE 6-HRLY FIXES WHILE
       SYSTEM REMAINS A THREAT.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#247 Postby caneman » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:13 am

Will need to develop before the East. Carib. as most times systems will not and don't later develop until the West Carib.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#248 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:15 am

It's hard to ignore what's going on out there. Based on visible that circulation looks pretty close to being closed if it isnt already and it does seem to be holding at least periodic convection over the center. Not the most healthy looking system because of the dry air and fast motion, but the improvements from even yesterday are apparent.
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#249 Postby Dean4Storms » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:16 am

northjaxpro wrote:That convective burst near the circulation center looks pretty impressive. I would think if the convection can sustain itself, this is easily a TD imo, bordering on a minimum TS.

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I agree, clear LLC on visible and convection re-firing. We have at least a TD now in my opinion.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#250 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:19 am

both maps show cyclone formation the 72 map and 72 hour surface map and marine map
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ATL: CHANTAL - Recon

#251 Postby Dave » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:19 am

Recon TCPOD for Invest 95L

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NOUS42 KNHC 071607
REPRPD
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1200 PM EDT SUN 07 JULY 2013
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
         VALID 08/1100Z TO 09/1100Z JULY 2013
         TCPOD NUMBER.....13-037

I.  ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
    1. SUSPECT AREA (NEAR WINDWARD ISLANDS)
       FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 70      FLIGHT TWO -- TEAL 71
       A. 08/2100Z                A. 09/1200Z,1800Z
       B. AFXXX 01BBA INVEST      B. AFXXX 0203A CYCLONE
       C. 08/1815Z                C. 09/1030Z
       D. 12.5N 54.7W             D. 14.0N 60.8W
       E. 08/2030Z TO 09/0030Z    E. 09/1130Z TO 09/1800Z
       F. RESOURCES PERMITTING

    2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY: CONTINUE 6-HRLY FIXES WHILE
       SYSTEM REMAINS A THREAT.

II. PACIFIC REQUIREMENTS
    1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
    2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.

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#252 Postby NDG » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:21 am

:uarrow: I agree, if convection persists through the afternoon near the apparent LLC this needs to bo upgraded to a TD since this is only a couple of days away from affecting the Islands so that people can start preparing for possible TS conditions.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#253 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:21 am

cycloneye wrote:First mission on Monday afternoon.

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REPRPD
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1200 PM EDT SUN 07 JULY 2013
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
         VALID 08/1100Z TO 09/1100Z JULY 2013
         TCPOD NUMBER.....13-037

I.  ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
    1. SUSPECT AREA (NEAR WINDWARD ISLANDS)
       FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 70      FLIGHT TWO -- TEAL 71
       A. 08/2100Z                A. 09/1200Z,1800Z
       B. AFXXX 01BBA INVEST      B. AFXXX 0203A CYCLONE
       C. 08/1815Z                C. 09/1030Z
       D. 12.5N 54.7W             D. 14.0N 60.8W
       E. 08/2030Z TO 09/0030Z    E. 09/1130Z TO 09/1800Z
       F. RESOURCES PERMITTING

    2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY: CONTINUE 6-HRLY FIXES WHILE
       SYSTEM REMAINS A THREAT.

look like air force agree to send plane on monday add second flight
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#254 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:22 am

Anything less than a code red for the 2pm TWO is not doing this system justice. This looks like a TD already.
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#255 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:23 am

i bet today plane been send down to Saint Croix speical hurricane hunter base
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#256 Postby wxman57 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:24 am

We've seen systems before that looked like clear tropical storms only for recon to be unable to close off a center at the surface. I think that we'll have to watch this system after it moves west of 70W in 4-5 days. Good video by Levi yesterday:

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#257 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:25 am

or going wait for early flight on monday to see if td now add monday flight
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#258 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:25 am

Does anyone think this will become Chantal before the islands?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#259 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:27 am

wxman57 wrote:We've seen systems before that looked like clear tropical storms only for recon to be unable to close off a center at the surface. I think that we'll have to watch this system after it moves west of 70W in 4-5 days. Good video by Levi yesterday:

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/

you could right or wrong let see nhc say if get to leedwards not been TD it wont be until south of haiti
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#260 Postby NDG » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:28 am

Convection refiring nicely over apparent LLC.

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