Bush To Address The Nation Tonight
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Bush To Address The Nation Tonight
It is supposed to be seen on your normal networks along with CNN,FNC, and MSNBC.
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Joshua... is it related to pneumonia?
I hope to hear a clear plan tonight about Iraq.
I hope to hear a clear plan tonight about Iraq.
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Oh, ok. I had heard about a mystery illness similar to pneumonia. Well, I hope she gets better soon. She is in my thoughts and prayers.
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Of course I pray for her nightly too.
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Bush Seeking $87B to Fight Terror Abroad
6 minutes ago By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Four days before the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, President Bush (news - web sites) said Sunday night he will seek $87 billion to fight terrorism in Iraq (news - web sites) and Afghanistan (news - web sites) and "engage the enemy where he lives."
In an 18-minute address Bush said, "We are fighting that enemy in Iraq and Afghanistan today so that we do not meet him again on our own streets, in our own cities."
Bush appealed for troops and money for security and reconstruction from other countries, even those who opposed the U.S.-led war.
Bush, speaking from the Cabinet Room in a nationally broadcast speech, said the United States would not be intimidated into retreat by violence.
"The terrorists have cited the examples of Beirut and Somalia, claiming that if you inflict harm on Americans we will run from a challenge," Bush said, referring to U.S. withdrawals after the loss of American lives. "In this they are mistaken."
It was Bush's first major speech on Iraq since May 1 when he stood on the deck of the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln and declared an end to major combat operations. Since then, more Americans have died in Iraq than were killed during the war. The overall death count is 287 — 149 since May 1.
The violence — including four major bombing attacks in a month — have raised alarms about Bush's handling of Iraq. Republicans and Democrats alike have urged Bush to change course and seek more troops and money from other countries.
Questions also have been fueled by the administration's failure to find any of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s alleged illegal weapons or Saddam himself. Bush made just one reference in his speech to weapons of mass destruction — a sharp contrast to his repeated assertions before the war about illegal weapons.
Bush's remarks failed to still criticism from Democratic presidential hopefuls.
"Now that the president has recognized that he has been going down the wrong path, this administration must begin the process of fully engaging our allies and sharing the burden of building a stable democracy in Iraq," said Rep. Dick Gephardt (news - web sites), D-Mo.
Howard Dean (news - web sites), another Democratic candidate, said Iraq had pulled the country's attention and resources away from homeland security and the economy.
Comparing Iraq with Vietnam, Dean said, "The government again is feeding misinformation to the American people in order to justify an enormous commitment of U.S. troops."
Bush said Iraq and the Middle East are critical to winning the global war on terror. Bush's plan for Mideast plan appeared to be unraveling after Saturday's resignation of Mahmoud Abbas, the U.S.-backed Palestinian prime minister. But he made no mention of that in his speech.
Bush described Iraq as the central front in the war against terror and said that "enemies of freedom are making a desperate stand there, and there they must be defeated.
"This will take time and require sacrifice," he said. "Yet we will do what is necessary, we will spend what is necessary, to achieve this essential victory in the war on terror, to promote freedom and to make our own nation more secure."
Bush said the current number of U.S. troops in Iraq — 130,000 — is sufficient but that more foreign troops are needed. He said two multinational divisions, led by Britain and Poland, are serving alongside the United States, and that American commanders have requested a third multinational division.
Some countries have asked for an explicit U.N. peacekeeping authorization, and Bush said Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) would seek a Security Council resolution to authorize deployment of new forces. Bush will address the U.N. General Assembly in two weeks.
Referring to France, Germany and Russia, Bush said that "not all of our friends agreed with our decision (to) ... remove Saddam Hussein from power. Yet we cannot let past differences interfere with present duties."
Pressed by Democrats and Republicans alike for a pricetag for Iraq, Bush said $66 billion of the $87 billion he will seek from Congress for the next fiscal year is for military and intelligence operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere. In April 2003, Congress and Bush enacted a $79 billion measure paying initial costs of the war and its aftermath and for worldwide efforts against terrorism.
While the United States has shouldered the burden of the effort in Iraq, Bush said other nations will be asked to help. He said Powell will meet with representatives of many countries later this month to seek contributions for rebuilding Afghanistan. Next month, Powell will hold a similar funding conference for Iraq.
"Europe, Japan and states in the Middle East all will benefit from the success of freedom in those two countries, and they should contribute to that success," Bush said.
Bush said Iraq is under siege from former loyalists of Saddam Hussein and foreign terrorists who have come to Iraq to pursue their war against the United States.
"We cannot be certain to what extent these groups work together," the president said. "We do know they have a common goal: reclaiming Iraq for tyranny."
Public support for Bush's policy has slipped since the war but has leveled off in the mid 50s, polls show.
Appealing to Americans' patriotism, Bush said the United States has "done this kind of work before. Following World War II, we lifted up the defeated nations of Japan and Germany and stood with them as they built representative governments. We committed years and resources to this cause."
He said U.S. strategy in Iraq has three objectives: "destroying the terrorists, enlisting the support of other nations for a free Iraq and helping Iraqis assume responsibility for their own defense and their own future."
Powell said the Bush administration is concerned that members of al-Qaida or other terrorist groups may be heading toward Iraq. "I'm not sure how large these numbers are, how significant the threat is, but we will deal with it in Iraq," Powell said on NBC's `Meet the Press."
Sen. Carl Levin (news, bio, voting record) of Michigan, the senior Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee (news - web sites), said Congress will approve the money needed to support U.S. troops, but that lawmakers want the president to tell them what his "exit strategy" is from Iraq.
Defense Department officials have said U.S. operations are costing about $3.9 billion monthly. That figure excludes indirect expenses such as replacing damaged equipment and munitions expended in combat.
Levin said lawmakers are being told that it will cost $4.5 billion a month for the military — plus reconstruction expenses.
6 minutes ago By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Four days before the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, President Bush (news - web sites) said Sunday night he will seek $87 billion to fight terrorism in Iraq (news - web sites) and Afghanistan (news - web sites) and "engage the enemy where he lives."
In an 18-minute address Bush said, "We are fighting that enemy in Iraq and Afghanistan today so that we do not meet him again on our own streets, in our own cities."
Bush appealed for troops and money for security and reconstruction from other countries, even those who opposed the U.S.-led war.
Bush, speaking from the Cabinet Room in a nationally broadcast speech, said the United States would not be intimidated into retreat by violence.
"The terrorists have cited the examples of Beirut and Somalia, claiming that if you inflict harm on Americans we will run from a challenge," Bush said, referring to U.S. withdrawals after the loss of American lives. "In this they are mistaken."
It was Bush's first major speech on Iraq since May 1 when he stood on the deck of the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln and declared an end to major combat operations. Since then, more Americans have died in Iraq than were killed during the war. The overall death count is 287 — 149 since May 1.
The violence — including four major bombing attacks in a month — have raised alarms about Bush's handling of Iraq. Republicans and Democrats alike have urged Bush to change course and seek more troops and money from other countries.
Questions also have been fueled by the administration's failure to find any of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s alleged illegal weapons or Saddam himself. Bush made just one reference in his speech to weapons of mass destruction — a sharp contrast to his repeated assertions before the war about illegal weapons.
Bush's remarks failed to still criticism from Democratic presidential hopefuls.
"Now that the president has recognized that he has been going down the wrong path, this administration must begin the process of fully engaging our allies and sharing the burden of building a stable democracy in Iraq," said Rep. Dick Gephardt (news - web sites), D-Mo.
Howard Dean (news - web sites), another Democratic candidate, said Iraq had pulled the country's attention and resources away from homeland security and the economy.
Comparing Iraq with Vietnam, Dean said, "The government again is feeding misinformation to the American people in order to justify an enormous commitment of U.S. troops."
Bush said Iraq and the Middle East are critical to winning the global war on terror. Bush's plan for Mideast plan appeared to be unraveling after Saturday's resignation of Mahmoud Abbas, the U.S.-backed Palestinian prime minister. But he made no mention of that in his speech.
Bush described Iraq as the central front in the war against terror and said that "enemies of freedom are making a desperate stand there, and there they must be defeated.
"This will take time and require sacrifice," he said. "Yet we will do what is necessary, we will spend what is necessary, to achieve this essential victory in the war on terror, to promote freedom and to make our own nation more secure."
Bush said the current number of U.S. troops in Iraq — 130,000 — is sufficient but that more foreign troops are needed. He said two multinational divisions, led by Britain and Poland, are serving alongside the United States, and that American commanders have requested a third multinational division.
Some countries have asked for an explicit U.N. peacekeeping authorization, and Bush said Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) would seek a Security Council resolution to authorize deployment of new forces. Bush will address the U.N. General Assembly in two weeks.
Referring to France, Germany and Russia, Bush said that "not all of our friends agreed with our decision (to) ... remove Saddam Hussein from power. Yet we cannot let past differences interfere with present duties."
Pressed by Democrats and Republicans alike for a pricetag for Iraq, Bush said $66 billion of the $87 billion he will seek from Congress for the next fiscal year is for military and intelligence operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere. In April 2003, Congress and Bush enacted a $79 billion measure paying initial costs of the war and its aftermath and for worldwide efforts against terrorism.
While the United States has shouldered the burden of the effort in Iraq, Bush said other nations will be asked to help. He said Powell will meet with representatives of many countries later this month to seek contributions for rebuilding Afghanistan. Next month, Powell will hold a similar funding conference for Iraq.
"Europe, Japan and states in the Middle East all will benefit from the success of freedom in those two countries, and they should contribute to that success," Bush said.
Bush said Iraq is under siege from former loyalists of Saddam Hussein and foreign terrorists who have come to Iraq to pursue their war against the United States.
"We cannot be certain to what extent these groups work together," the president said. "We do know they have a common goal: reclaiming Iraq for tyranny."
Public support for Bush's policy has slipped since the war but has leveled off in the mid 50s, polls show.
Appealing to Americans' patriotism, Bush said the United States has "done this kind of work before. Following World War II, we lifted up the defeated nations of Japan and Germany and stood with them as they built representative governments. We committed years and resources to this cause."
He said U.S. strategy in Iraq has three objectives: "destroying the terrorists, enlisting the support of other nations for a free Iraq and helping Iraqis assume responsibility for their own defense and their own future."
Powell said the Bush administration is concerned that members of al-Qaida or other terrorist groups may be heading toward Iraq. "I'm not sure how large these numbers are, how significant the threat is, but we will deal with it in Iraq," Powell said on NBC's `Meet the Press."
Sen. Carl Levin (news, bio, voting record) of Michigan, the senior Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee (news - web sites), said Congress will approve the money needed to support U.S. troops, but that lawmakers want the president to tell them what his "exit strategy" is from Iraq.
Defense Department officials have said U.S. operations are costing about $3.9 billion monthly. That figure excludes indirect expenses such as replacing damaged equipment and munitions expended in combat.
Levin said lawmakers are being told that it will cost $4.5 billion a month for the military — plus reconstruction expenses.
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I was thinking.....
What was the cost of the World Trade Center attack. Not even human lives, which are priceless. I'm talking about the cost of the buildings, the stuff in them, the lost work, the disruption, the cleanup, the planes that were lost, etc. etc. Add to that the costs at the Pentagon.
I'll bet the cost of all that had to be in the 10's of Billions, easy. Suddenly $87 bil isn't so bad. Lets take the war to them, over there, and blow up their stuff!
What was the cost of the World Trade Center attack. Not even human lives, which are priceless. I'm talking about the cost of the buildings, the stuff in them, the lost work, the disruption, the cleanup, the planes that were lost, etc. etc. Add to that the costs at the Pentagon.
I'll bet the cost of all that had to be in the 10's of Billions, easy. Suddenly $87 bil isn't so bad. Lets take the war to them, over there, and blow up their stuff!
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Exactly. You have to realize that those were 110 or so story buildings that Osama and his guys just came in and destroyed. The twin towers had to be worth $5-$10 billion EACH IMHO. 
Lost wages - add another $2 billion from the WTC alone. Then you have to add the Pentagon - $1 billion. Add the lost airliners - $250 million. $23,250,000,000 is about 1/4 (a bit more actually) than what Pres. Bush is asking for. And IMHO it'll be hard as heck for him to get that much $$$$.
Lost wages - add another $2 billion from the WTC alone. Then you have to add the Pentagon - $1 billion. Add the lost airliners - $250 million. $23,250,000,000 is about 1/4 (a bit more actually) than what Pres. Bush is asking for. And IMHO it'll be hard as heck for him to get that much $$$$.
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You forgot to add in the costs of losses and drops in the stock markets for months after 9-11...the world economy, not to mention the hit Wall Street took alone, easily raises the level far beyond a mere $87B...which was the idea behind this round of attacks, i.e. to disrupt (if not destroy) the economic ifrastucture.
They blew it.
They blew it.
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You are so right SS. To the Terrorist....a few thousand dead Americans was probably just some icing on the cake to them. The big bad money making machine that is America took a severe hit, that we are just now starting to recover from....and they know that, which leads me to theorize that another massive attack is imminent. You know...let them start to feel good about things again...get their homes re-financed, build that bomb shelter in the back yard you've always wanted, start to travel the skies again.... then BOOM!..hit us again because we have become complacent.
But...their is no complacency in Bush..he is doing what he knows has to be done despite the fact that 2 years has begun to soften the panic and utter terror that was a part of every Americans soul following 911.
If.....the terrorists wanted to inflict maximum casualties, there are any number of targets that would have assured a higher death count. Their goal was 2 fold. Immediate and substantial death and destruction, followed by a reeling economy.
But...their is no complacency in Bush..he is doing what he knows has to be done despite the fact that 2 years has begun to soften the panic and utter terror that was a part of every Americans soul following 911.
If.....the terrorists wanted to inflict maximum casualties, there are any number of targets that would have assured a higher death count. Their goal was 2 fold. Immediate and substantial death and destruction, followed by a reeling economy.
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