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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#4301 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:52 am

It's a chilly 22 degrees here this morning. It's nice to see some below average temps.
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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#4302 Postby CaptinCrunch » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:48 am

Yukon Cornelius wrote:It's a chilly 22 degrees here this morning. It's nice to see some below average temps.



It was a crisp 27 at my place this morning, and we will be about 29-30 tonight.
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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#4303 Postby wxman57 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:10 am

Down to a bone-chilling 55 in north Houston this morning. Ready for summer... (as always)
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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#4304 Postby Portastorm » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:13 am

wxman57 wrote:Down to a bone-chilling 55 in north Houston this morning. Ready for summer... (as always)


Should we send some space heaters over to your office to help?! :roll:

I think it may get even colder for you next week, my friend.
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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#4305 Postby wxman57 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:20 am

Portastorm wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Down to a bone-chilling 55 in north Houston this morning. Ready for summer... (as always)


Should we send some space heaters over to your office to help?! :roll:

I think it may get even colder for you next week, my friend.


Yes, I'll need them. I'm already wearing my coat in the office. The AC is running and my thermometer reads a frigid 75.5 deg. Lows in the 30s and highs in the 50s for a couple of days. At least the temperature may reach the mid to upper 60s this weekend - good enough for biking. Not much precip showing up on the metrogram below. I did measure 0.56" yesterday/Wednesday.

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#4306 Postby SaskatchewanScreamer » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:25 am

wxman57 wrote:
Portastorm wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Down to a bone-chilling 55 in north Houston this morning. Ready for summer... (as always)


Should we send some space heaters over to your office to help?! :roll:

I think it may get even colder for you next week, my friend.


Yes, I'll need them. I'm already wearing my coat in the office. The AC is running and my thermometer reads a frigid 75.5 deg.


:hmm: :break: :Can: :moon2:

I hope the storm of the century hits Oslo and he is stuck there for months.
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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#4307 Postby wxman57 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:36 am

SaskatchewanScreamer wrote:
I hope the storm of the century hits Oslo and he is stuck there for months.


Just checked and they're forecast to be above freezing most of this week. Highs into the mid 40s, lows 34-35 deg. Well above normal for southern Norway (not Oslo, by the way, but not far west). By the time I get there in mid April the sun will be out 15 hours a day, which could allow temps to soar into the 50s. ;-)
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#4308 Postby SaskatchewanScreamer » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:39 am

wxman57 wrote:
SaskatchewanScreamer wrote:
I hope the storm of the century hits Oslo and he is stuck there for months.


Just checked and they're forecast to be above freezing most of this week. Highs into the mid 40s, lows 34-35 deg. Well above normal for southern Norway (not Oslo, by the way, but not far west). By the time I get there in mid April the sun will be out 15 hours a day, which could allow temps to soar into the 50s. ;-)



:mad: All I can hope for then is that their models are doing as well as they are for North America.

:grrr:
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#4309 Postby Texas Snowman » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:53 am

11 a.m., high clouds and sunshine, and its still showing 32 degrees at my house.

Ahhh, winter... :D
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#4310 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:33 pm

There's a bonafide true blizzard coming to the southern plains and no chatter?! Come on guys, sure most models are a bit north than the Red River but they have been going south! Look at the snowpack we've established to our north! Ensembles are giving wiggle room for the stacked low.
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#4311 Postby gboudx » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:36 pm

Ntxw wrote:There's a bonafide true blizzard coming to the southern plains and no chatter?! Come on guys, sure most models are a bit north than the Red River but they have been going south! Look at the snowpack we've established to our north!


You want chatter? Okay. Fool me once, shame on you(models). Fool me twice, shame on me. :) I'm waiting until it's within 24-36 hours before I line up the football.
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#4312 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:41 pm

Would 48-60 hours work?
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#4313 Postby gboudx » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:42 pm

Still too far out. Too much time for the models to pull the football. But I like the trend.
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#4314 Postby gpsnowman » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:45 pm

Where is said storm located now, Ntwx? Is it inland yet?
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#4315 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:46 pm

I'll see if I can distract Lucy long enough! By the way the latest CMC updates have proven to be rather refreshing. The other models seem to have trended towards it with the past and present systems. Sample is still small but it has been much more respectable than before the update.
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#4316 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:48 pm

gpsnowman wrote:Where is said storm located now, Ntwx? Is it inland yet?


Coming into the Pac Nw states tonight
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#4317 Postby Portastorm » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:49 pm

Ntxw wrote:I'll see if I can distract Lucy long enough! By the way the latest CMC updates have proven to be rather refreshing. The other models seem to have trended towards it with the past and present systems. Sample is still small but it has been much more respectable than before the update.


All of us ... well ... just about everyone here except for wxman57 ... will want that 12z Canadian run to verify. If it does ... we could end this disappointing winter with some happy/happy.joy/joy!
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#4318 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:56 pm

Ntxw wrote:I'll see if I can distract Lucy long enough! By the way the latest CMC updates have proven to be rather refreshing. The other models seem to have trended towards it with the past and present systems. Sample is still small but it has been much more respectable than before the update.



You are right Ntxw!

Here is an excerpt from the HPC model discussion this morning:

"DEEP CYCLONE MOVING INTO THE PLAINS/MIDWEST MONDAY
PREFERENCE: 00Z UKMET WITH SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE CONFIDENCE

THE 12Z NAM/09Z SREF MEAN OUTPACE THE REMAINDER OF THE GUIDANCE
WITH THIS SYSTEM'S EASTWARD PROGRESSION. THE RIDGE/TROUGH
CONFIGURATION THIS SYSTEM PARTIALLY COMPRISES IS MOVING SOUTHEAST
THROUGH NORTH AMERICA, ARGUING FOR A MORE SOUTHERLY SOLUTION,
SIMILAR TO THE NON-GFS GUIDANCE. THERE IS AN UPSTREAM KICKER
WITHIN 2000 NM TO ITS WEST-NORTHWEST AND THE RIDGE UPSTREAM IS NOT
AMPLIFYING, WHICH DOES NOT FAVOR THE SLOWER GUIDANCE. HOWEVER,
BOTH THE 00Z ECMWF AND 06Z GEFS MEANS ARE SLOWER THAN THE GFS AND
ESPECIALLY THE NAM/SREF MEAN. THE GFS HAS BEEN TRENDING
SOUTHWEST/SLOWER WITH THIS SYSTEM, TOWARDS THE NON-NCEP GUIDANCE.
THE 00Z CANADIAN IS THE MOST SOUTHERLY OF THE GUIDANCE, WHICH FITS
ONE OF ITS TRADITIONAL BIASES WITH CLOSED LOWS. HOWEVER, ITS
PHYSICS WERE UPGRADED LAST WEEK, SO THIS BIAS MAY NO LONGER BE
RELEVANT. ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, THE GFS/NAM ARE NOT BEING
CONSIDERED USEFUL AT THIS TIME. THE PREFERENCE IS FOR A
COMPROMISE OF THE REMAINING GUIDANCE, CLOSEST TO THE 00Z UKMET
WHICH LIES BETWEEN THE 06Z GEFS/00Z ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN SOLUTIONS.
CONFIDENCE IN THIS CHOICE IS SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE SINCE THE
SYSTEM IS PROGRESSIVE YET AMPLIFIED."


The 12z CMC looks even better for the northern half of Texas than the 0z run!
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#4319 Postby Texas Snowman » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:57 pm

Ahh, the refreshing sounds of Portastorm coming back from the Dark Side.

With any luck, Porta will be soon exclaiming (in his best Duck Dynasty voice): "You want a winter storm! You got it Jack!"
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#4320 Postby gpsnowman » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:59 pm

You are correct Portastorm. I hate to sound like a spoiled brat considering the DFW area has seen three measurable snowfalls this winter, but a late season surprise would erase the doldrums we have had the last few weeks. Seeing other parts of the country get hammered with snow just makes it worse. Oklahoma, Texas panhandle, Kansas, Missouri all getting some fun while we spectate just south. Frustrating.
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