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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#1121 Postby iorange55 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:15 pm

Now we take our several hour break before the 0z's start to roll out :P .

By the way, it's incredibly windy outside! I went to the store earlier and my shopping cart nearly ran into a Hummer...which would have been very bad.
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#1122 Postby Ntxw » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:20 pm

iorange55 wrote:Now we take our several hour break before the 0z's start to roll out :P .

By the way, it's incredibly windy outside! I went to the store earlier and my shopping cart nearly ran into a Hummer...which would have been very bad.


Who are we kidding, you know we're all going to digest the 18z :cheesy:. All that buildup for lack of model watching last year is being unleashed! I did notice the wind, had my steering off a bit driving in it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#1123 Postby ouamber » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:22 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
iorange55 wrote:12z Euro appears to be digging a little more? And it looks to be faster with the system through 144hrs.

Edit: :double:


Yeah it's giving parts of north Texas and Oklahoma snow


The high-res Euro (every 3 hrs) is coming in now on my workstation. I'll check to see where it is predicting snow. It's in through 18Z the 24th now. I'm also plotting the 500mb heights from the 00Z Euro along with the 12Z Euro so that I can compare at each time intervals. Not a lot of difference through 18Z the 24th. Ah, the next few panels just came in. Definite difference indicated by late the 24th. 12Z is slower and deeper with the upper trof.

I don't see that the 12Z GFS is forecasting any snow for north TX, as was mentioned above. Maps at twister.com show the southern extent down to about OKC:



Thanks for all your information!! When you get the snow totals from the Euro, could you see what it spits out for NE Oklahoma? Was going to travel, but if snow is near Tulsa, I may just stay at home:) BTW..sometimes I like it hot too! (but not around Christmas)


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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#1124 Postby wxman57 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:26 pm

12Z Euro high res is in through the 26th now. Plotting the 00Z vs. 12Z 500mb heights together clearly demonstrates that the 12Z Euro is about 6-12 hours slower than the 00Z with next Tue/Wed's trof and about 30-50 meters less deep. The position of the upper low is similar on both runs, across the northern TX panhandle on the 25th then to central OK and off to the NE. 12Z Euro does deepen the low a lot more once it reaches southern Michigan on the morning of the 27th.

Like I said before - interesting but I'm not sure that's the correct solution yet. Give it another 2-4 days (to when the event is within 84 hrs or so).

Oh, the Euro 24hr snow accumulation is in. Shows some snow near Dallas on Christmas (between 6Z 25th and 6Z the 26th. About 0.5mm = 0.02 inches liquid = maybe 0.2 inches of snow:

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#1125 Postby Ntxw » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:29 pm

Getting closer to JMA range, out to 144 hours

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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#1126 Postby GRAYSONCO.WX » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:36 pm

Sorry, I don't know what I was looking at. The 12Z GFS doesn't show snow accumulations for southern Oklahoma or north Texas; however, it does show light snow/flurries for that area.
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#1127 Postby Tireman4 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:00 pm

Meanwhile, we have hit 81 degrees at KIAH and the record for December 19 is...ding ding ding...81...lovely...just lovely....
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#1128 Postby wxman57 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:16 pm

Tireman4 wrote:Meanwhile, we have hit 81 degrees at KIAH and the record for December 19 is...ding ding ding...81...lovely...just lovely....


Wow! Didn't realize the weather was so nice outside! We have no windows in operations. Another beautiful December day, though not as sunny as yesterday. Can't beat that.
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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#1129 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:25 pm

Blech... its a miserable cesspool of weather outside today.

Ready for tomorrow with colder temps and wind. :ggreen:
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#1130 Postby SaskatchewanScreamer » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:26 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Tireman4 wrote:Meanwhile, we have hit 81 degrees at KIAH and the record for December 19 is...ding ding ding...81...lovely...just lovely....


Wow! Didn't realize the weather was so nice outside! We have no windows in operations. Another beautiful December day, though not as sunny as yesterday. Can't beat that.


By any chance do you do forecasts on T.V. Wxman57? Because if you do I'm betting a lot of snowlovers' t.v.s are damaged when you make a broadcast.
(I'm sure ice cubes are what they use).
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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#1131 Postby PTrackerLA » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:41 pm

Louisiana poster chiming in...

I'm really hoping the cold air/trough will speed up some more so we can at least get the cold front through here during Christmas day. Wxman what do you think the chances are of the cold air being faster than currently depicted by models? I just hate a warm (and probably wet) Christmas :grrr: .
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#1132 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:50 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Tireman4 wrote:Meanwhile, we have hit 81 degrees at KIAH and the record for December 19 is...ding ding ding...81...lovely...just lovely....


Wow! Didn't realize the weather was so nice outside! We have no windows in operations. Another beautiful December day, though not as sunny as yesterday. Can't beat that.



May Santa Clause leave you a stocking full of dry ice on Christmas morning.... :cheesy:
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#1133 Postby gboudx » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:55 pm

SaskatchewanScreamer wrote:
By any chance do you do forecasts on T.V. Wxman57? Because if you do I'm betting a lot of snowlovers' t.v.s are damaged when you make a broadcast.
(I'm sure ice cubes are what they use).


Maybe he'll like this forecast for Mayan Calendar Day:

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#1134 Postby SaskatchewanScreamer » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:57 pm

gboudx wrote:
SaskatchewanScreamer wrote:
By any chance do you do forecasts on T.V. Wxman57? Because if you do I'm betting a lot of snowlovers' t.v.s are damaged when you make a broadcast.
(I'm sure ice cubes are what they use).


Maybe he'll like this forecast for Mayan Calendar Day:

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:lol:
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#1135 Postby dhweather » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:03 pm

gboudx wrote:
SaskatchewanScreamer wrote:
By any chance do you do forecasts on T.V. Wxman57? Because if you do I'm betting a lot of snowlovers' t.v.s are damaged when you make a broadcast.
(I'm sure ice cubes are what they use).


Maybe he'll like this forecast for Mayan Calendar Day:

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Now that is funny.
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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#1136 Postby dhweather » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:06 pm

A new record high was set already at #DFW airport with 76 degrees at 1pm. the old record of 73 was set in 1978 and 2008

The 2 PM OBS was 77, so we've broken the new record. There's still time to hit 78!
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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#1137 Postby Cyclenall » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:16 pm

CaptinCrunch wrote:
ouamber wrote:Why do I continue to torture myself with long range models that never come true!!! And why is Larry Cosgrove mentioning a major after Christmas storm 25-27 that the models have pretty much done away with for OK/TX?


Larry has watched 'The Day After Tommrow" 1 to many times over the summer!!!

I'd say :roll: . I would bet my life savings that this upcoming January will not be record cold for most of North America, this is coming from pro-cold lovers who can't stand what the atmosphere has been giving us for the past couple years. The CFSv2 has been wrong for this month showing very cold conditions but instead above normal was served (to my delight). Now it wants us to buy the January cold story like December was suppose to be. I don't follow the CFS because of this. Just keep those 1050+ mb highs away and we're good :na: .

wxman57 wrote:
Tireman4 wrote:Meanwhile, we have hit 81 degrees at KIAH and the record for December 19 is...ding ding ding...81...lovely...just lovely....


Wow! Didn't realize the weather was so nice outside! We have no windows in operations. Another beautiful December day, though not as sunny as yesterday. Can't beat that.

Yes.

wxman57 wrote:Image

How come that TwisterData map keeps showing 48 inches of snow for Vancouver BC? That amount clearly covers the city not just the mountains and Van gets mostly rain during the winter with some snow but never insane amounts like that. Its showing over 10X more then the Great Lakes snowbelt regions which would be twilight zone type stuff :lol: .

SaskatchewanScreamer wrote:By any chance do you do forecasts on T.V. Wxman57? Because if you do I'm betting a lot of snowlovers' t.v.s are damaged when you make a broadcast.
(I'm sure ice cubes are what they use).

He doesn't do TV but that's a LOL comment right there.
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#1138 Postby wxman57 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:20 pm

SaskatchewanScreamer wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
Tireman4 wrote:Meanwhile, we have hit 81 degrees at KIAH and the record for December 19 is...ding ding ding...81...lovely...just lovely....


Wow! Didn't realize the weather was so nice outside! We have no windows in operations. Another beautiful December day, though not as sunny as yesterday. Can't beat that.


By any chance do you do forecasts on T.V. Wxman57? Because if you do I'm betting a lot of snowlovers' t.v.s are damaged when you make a broadcast.
(I'm sure ice cubes are what they use).


Nope, not on TV. Hmm, now that Gene Norman is off the air in Houston, maybe I could generate a "wxman57 number" to take the place of his "Norman Number" that he used to rank the weather each day. I'd give yesterday a wxman57 number of 8 (still a bit cool). About a 7.5 today (too many clouds).
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#1139 Postby Tireman4 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:49 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Tireman4 wrote:Meanwhile, we have hit 81 degrees at KIAH and the record for December 19 is...ding ding ding...81...lovely...just lovely....


Wow! Didn't realize the weather was so nice outside! We have no windows in operations. Another beautiful December day, though not as sunny as yesterday. Can't beat that.


And to think, even at a 7:30 pace yesterday, it was brutal. I swear the last 2 miles of my 7 mile run I was just holding on. I have been running for over 30 years and that was brutal. I will not start my run until 4:15 today. Any bets I will hurt? Sigh.
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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#1140 Postby orangeblood » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:04 pm

I'd say :roll: . I would bet my life savings that this upcoming January will not be record cold for most of North America, this is coming from pro-cold lovers who can't stand what the atmosphere has been giving us for the past couple years. The CFSv2 has been wrong for this month showing very cold conditions but instead above normal was served (to my delight). Now it wants us to buy the January cold story like December was suppose to be. I don't follow the CFS because of this. Just keep those 1050+ mb highs away and we're good :na: .


Sorry but your comment about the CFSv2 for this month is flat out false....it actually did pretty well forecasting temps for December back in November. Here is a map showing the forecast from a month ago:

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