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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#561 Postby GRAYSONCO.WX » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:17 am

Any thoughts on the 12Z NAM? It appears to be pretty consistent with the past run or two.
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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#562 Postby Portastorm » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:28 am

GRAYSONCO.WX wrote:Any thoughts on the 12Z NAM? It appears to be pretty consistent with the past run or two.


Actually, IMO, it appears to be a little less aggressive with the post front precip than previous runs. It does show a little bit of light snow/ice pellets in and around the DFW Metroplex and areas to the northwest for a few hours.
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#563 Postby gpsnowman » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:34 am

:uarrow: Hey Portastorm, what is the timeframe you are looking at for the DFW snow.? I just hope I am awake if it does snow around here. Might a long night on Sunday/Monday.
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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#564 Postby GRAYSONCO.WX » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:36 am

Portastorm wrote:
GRAYSONCO.WX wrote:Any thoughts on the 12Z NAM? It appears to be pretty consistent with the past run or two.


Actually, IMO, it appears to be a little less aggressive with the post front precip than previous runs. It does show a little bit of light snow/ice pellets in and around the DFW Metroplex and areas to the northwest for a few hours.

Interesting; thanks! I was mainly looking at the 500mb maps which appears to be fairly similar.
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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#565 Postby Portastorm » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:52 am

I've never been one to act like Scrooge when it comes to the possibility of winter weather in Texas, but on this one ... I wouldn't count on anything, graysonco.wx. If it happens for you, consider it a pleasant surprise. If not, then you didn't expect anything. :wink:

Until we start seeing more associated moisture in the post-frontal atmosphere, I'm just not all that confident about anyone's winter wx chances up north. It's going to be very light at best. JMO.
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#566 Postby Tireman4 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:11 am

Come on Pineapple Express. You must bring us delight this Winter!!!
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#567 Postby orangeblood » Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:22 pm

SREF members are much more aggressive with post-frontal precip across North Texas on Monday morning....showing probabilities for more than 1" of snow of greater than 20% in some parts of north texas. If this trough digs further south than currently forecast, look for these probabilities to increase as we get closer to this event.

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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#568 Postby GRAYSONCO.WX » Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:32 pm

orangeblood wrote:SREF members are much more aggressive with post-frontal precip across North Texas on Monday morning....showing probabilities for more than 1" of snow of greater than 20% in some parts of north texas. If this trough digs further south than currently forecast, look for these probabilities to increase as we get closer to this event.

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Interesting! Can you post an image or link?
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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#569 Postby orangeblood » Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:49 pm

GRAYSONCO.WX wrote:
orangeblood wrote:SREF members are much more aggressive with post-frontal precip across North Texas on Monday morning....showing probabilities for more than 1" of snow of greater than 20% in some parts of north texas. If this trough digs further south than currently forecast, look for these probabilities to increase as we get closer to this event.

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Interesting! Can you post an image or link?


here you go...notice how some of the members show quite a bit of wrap around precip as the trough moves through

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#570 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:05 pm

Ukmet seems to be the most amplified and vigorous with moisture this morning. Takes on a more neutral tilt vs positive which is better for some moisture return. A blend of it and the euro's qpf regeneration would probably be ideal for us.

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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#571 Postby GRAYSONCO.WX » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:10 pm

orangeblood wrote:
GRAYSONCO.WX wrote:
orangeblood wrote:SREF members are much more aggressive with post-frontal precip across North Texas on Monday morning....showing probabilities for more than 1" of snow of greater than 20% in some parts of north texas. If this trough digs further south than currently forecast, look for these probabilities to increase as we get closer to this event.

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Interesting! Can you post an image or link?


here you go...notice how some of the members show quite a bit of wrap around precip as the trough moves through
Thank you! Yes, some of the members do show some good wrap around moisture! Let's hope this trend continues. Btw, has this system been sampled yet?
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#572 Postby GRAYSONCO.WX » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:10 pm

Ntxw wrote:Ukmet seems to be the most amplified and vigorous with moisture this morning. Takes on a more neutral tilt vs positive which is better for some moisture return. A blend of it and the euro's qpf regeneration would probably be ideal for us.

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Good, good! I'm ready for the 12Z ECMWF
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#573 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:37 pm

Hate to be a debbie downer but i think DFW sees some flakes with this system, maybe a dusting at best. The moisture just doesnt really seem to be there for a long period of time
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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#574 Postby iorange55 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:55 pm

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:Hate to be a debbie downer but i think DFW sees some flakes with this system, maybe a dusting at best. The moisture just doesnt really seem to be there for a long period of time


I don't think that makes you a debbie downer! It just makes you realistic. Even if we just see a few flakes, that would still be a very nice surprise. Everything after that would just be a bonus.
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#575 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:00 pm

Yeah everything is a bonus. Just seeing flurries at least matches last season :D. Wasn't even expecting more than a front to knock temps near average not long ago.
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#576 Postby txtiff » Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:01 pm

As long as it's enough to snap a few pictures of some snow flakes falling I will be good. That way I can tease my sister down in SE Texas with them. :froze:
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#577 Postby CaptinCrunch » Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:07 pm

Ntxw wrote:Yeah everything is a bonus. Just seeing flurries at least matches last season :D. Wasn't even expecting more than a front to knock temps near average not long ago.


When it's been 85 degrees for the first 4 days December, any type of winter precip with this front is a Bonus, Surprise, Gift, or anything else you can call it. :ggreen: :froze:
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#578 Postby gboudx » Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:00 pm

CaptinCrunch wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Yeah everything is a bonus. Just seeing flurries at least matches last season :D. Wasn't even expecting more than a front to knock temps near average not long ago.


When it's been 85 degrees for the first 4 days December, any type of winter precip with this front is a Bonus, Surprise, Gift, or anything else you can call it. :ggreen: :froze:


Shoot I'll be less picky, any type of precip is a bonus. My favorite mountain bike trail is so dusty, going into turns could mean tires losing grip and into a tree. Yes, this has happened to me. Twice in the past month. :)
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Re: Texas Winter 2012-2013

#579 Postby Turtle » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:25 pm

My 7 day forecast changed slightly.

Monday Night: A 40 percent chance of rain. Partly cloudy, with a low around 29.

Getting almost cold enough for snow!! :D
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#580 Postby weatherdude1108 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:08 pm

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AUSTIN/SAN ANTONIO TX
338 PM CST FRI DEC 7 2012

.DISCUSSION...
THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN HAS SHIFTED TO THE EAST WITH THE FLOW
BECOMING ZONAL ALOFT. AT THE SFC HIGH PRESSURE IS CENTERED OVER THE
GULF AND THERE IS LOW PRESSURE CENTERED ALONG THE RED RIVER IN
SOUTHEASTERN OK. THIS HAS THE SFC WINDS BLOWING MAINLY FROM THE
SOUTH. THE VAD WIND PROFILES FROM AREA RADARS SHOW DEEPER LAYER
WINDS ALSO FROM THE SOUTH UP TO ABOUT 5 KFT. THIS GENERAL PATTERN
WILL REMAIN IN PLACE FOR THE WEEKEND. LOOK FOR SAT AND SUN TO BE A
REPEAT OF THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS WITH LATE NIGHT/EARLY MORNING
FOG AND POSSIBLE DRIZZLE...THEN GRADUAL CLEARING DURING THE
AFTERNOON. THE BIG CHANGE WILL COME LATE SUN AND MON. AN UPPER
LEVEL TROUGH WILL MOVE OUT OF THE ROCKIES INTO THE SOUTHERN PLAINS
AND BRING A STRONG COLD FRONT THROUGH TEXAS.
THE FRONT WILL MOVE
THROUGH SUN NIGHT/MON MORNING. THIS WILL BRING A CHANCE FOR
SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS
SUN AFTERNOON THROUGH MON MORNING. BEST
CHANCE FOR PRECIP WILL OVERNIGHT. BEHIND THE FRONT WILL BE THE
COLDEST AIR OF THE SEASON SO FAR. HIGH TEMPS MON WILL BE AS MUCH
AS 30 DEGREES COLDER THAN HIGHS ON SUN. TUE MORNING WILL BRING
FREEZING TEMPS TO MOST OF THE CWA WITH ONLY THE SOUTHWESTERN
PORTION OF THE AREA STAYING ABOVE THAT MARK. MOST OF THE AREA WILL
HAVE LOWS IN THE 20S.
FOR THE MIDDLE PART OF NEXT WEEK...THE UPPER
TROUGH WILL MOVE OFF THE EAST AND COOL TEMPS WILL STICK AROUND
WITH TEMPS BELOW NORMAL UNTIL THU.
NO OTHER CHANCES FOR PRECIP FOR
THE REST OF THE FORECAST.
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