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#8101 Postby WxGuy1 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:35 pm

MHurricanes wrote:Recent Joe Bastardi Tweets:
Joe Bastardi ‏@BigJoeBastardi
I believe evidence will show this does cat 2-3 wind damage in the parishes south of New Orleans.Wind comes down to sfc in tightening storms


:roll: Does he have any evidence of sustained winds speeds in the Cat 2-3 category? If he does, then I' think he'd forward them on. As a result, and given what I've seen in terms of observations, I'll go with "no, he doesn't have any evidence". The long duration of event and the gusts > 75 mph are going to produce more damage than I think many are expecting for "only" a Cat 1 hurricane. I'll file this in the same place I filed "Isaac could be 960 mb by Sunday evening" and "Isaac could hit as a Cat 5"... Oh JB...

monicaei wrote:I know this guy is a pro met, and a well respected one I'm sure, but he sure seems to have a catastrophe fetish?


ProMet, yes. "Well respected", that's debatable, especially among promets.
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#8102 Postby MHurricanes » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:36 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:
boomstyk wrote:
MHurricanes wrote:Recent Joe Bastardi Tweets:

Joe Bastardi ‏@BigJoeBastardi
Grande Isle Mayor says All Hell is breaking loose ( his words) 966 closed wall, could hit 960 as dynamics improving to counter marshes

Joe Bastardi ‏@BigJoeBastardi
I believe evidence will show this does cat 2-3 wind damage in the parishes south of New Orleans.Wind comes down to sfc in tightening storms

Joe Bastardi ‏@BigJoeBastardi
The parishes south of New Orleans may be witnessing an attempt by the gulf to over-run them as this storm will pound away next 24 hrs


Loves the Drama doesn't he? LOL


Yep, Joe is known to pimp up storms, 100+mph gust does not make a cat 2 or 3, its just a gust its probably 80mph with that just like the NHC says

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I believe Joe is saying the area might see damage that is the equivalent of that caused by a CAT2 or CAT3. He's not saying that Isaac is a CAT2 or CAT3 storm.
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#8103 Postby Houstonia » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:36 pm

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CronkPSU wrote:wgno crew are all saying it has to be going west (and maybe even WSW) and wondering what the hell NHC is talking about



NHC finally mentioned the possibility of moving further west and maybe taking the models into consideration


Where do you see the NHC mention of moving further west please? thanks.
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#8104 Postby wxsouth » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:36 pm

Pressure is no longer dropping and will likely begin to rise unless additional deep convection develops over the next hour or so. Don't know where Bastardi got 966mb from, and the pressure certainly isn't dropping to 960mb with the warming cloud tops. That guy is something else.
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#8105 Postby Texashawk » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:36 pm

Did JB just get one really, really right one time, and has been living off it ever since? I don't understand the fandom.
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#8106 Postby wxwatcher1999 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:37 pm

Houstonia wrote:
wxwatcher1999 wrote:
CronkPSU wrote:wgno crew are all saying it has to be going west (and maybe even WSW) and wondering what the hell NHC is talking about



NHC finally mentioned the possibility of moving further west and maybe taking the models into consideration


Where do you see the NHC mention of moving further west please? thanks.



correction the weather channel
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#8107 Postby CronkPSU » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:37 pm

wxsouth wrote:Pressure is no longer dropping and will likely begin to rise unless additional deep convection develops over the next hour or so. Don't know where Bastardi got 966mb from, and the pressure certainly isn't dropping to 960mb with the warming cloud tops. That guy is something else.



the weather channel quoted the same number...

@twc_hurricane

Latest NOAA recon plane found a min. central pressure of 966mb inside #Isaac at 10:35pm CDT, the lowest pressure yet.
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#8108 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:38 pm

drift sw..hope its just a weeble wobble.
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#8109 Postby catskillfire51 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:38 pm

LOCATION...29.1N 89.9W
ABOUT 65 MI...100 KM S OF NEW ORLEANS LOUISIANA
ABOUT 60 MI... 95 KM SE OF HOUMA LOUISIANA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...80 MPH...130 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 310 DEGREES AT 8 MPH...13 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...968 MB...28.58 INCHES
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#8110 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:39 pm

CronkPSU wrote:wgno crew are all saying it has to be going west (and maybe even WSW) and wondering what the hell NHC is talking about


Yeah, I think some of the local weather guys are believing their own eyes and the radar...and not the "moving NW @ 8mph" form the Nhc.
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#8111 Postby Texashawk » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:39 pm

What the hell. :darrow:

catskillfire51 wrote:LOCATION...29.1N 89.9W
ABOUT 65 MI...100 KM S OF NEW ORLEANS LOUISIANA
ABOUT 60 MI... 95 KM SE OF HOUMA LOUISIANA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...80 MPH...130 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 310 DEGREES AT 8 MPH...13 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...968 MB...28.58 INCHES
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#8112 Postby monicaei » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:40 pm

Texashawk wrote:Did JB just get one really, really right one time, and has been living off it ever since? I don't understand the fandom.


I am getting the feeling there is a twitchy desire to see other peoples's lives devastated? Like some sort of fetish... I want this to be as bad as possible and watch watch what happens. It's kinda sick and perverse
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#8113 Postby boomstyk » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:40 pm

CronkPSU wrote:
wxsouth wrote:Pressure is no longer dropping and will likely begin to rise unless additional deep convection develops over the next hour or so. Don't know where Bastardi got 966mb from, and the pressure certainly isn't dropping to 960mb with the warming cloud tops. That guy is something else.



the weather channel quoted the same number...

@twc_hurricane

Latest NOAA recon plane found a min. central pressure of 966mb inside #Isaac at 10:35pm CDT, the lowest pressure yet.


Convection better fire quick or the lights will start going out slowly. Thanks WX for the info.
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#8114 Postby catskillfire51 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:40 pm

it's moved .1N and .2 W
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#8115 Postby wicked_wx_watcher » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:41 pm

If Isaac holds together overnight and continues its same basic track, will daytime heating affect it tomorrow??
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#8116 Postby Ken711 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:41 pm

SunnyThoughts wrote:
CronkPSU wrote:wgno crew are all saying it has to be going west (and maybe even WSW) and wondering what the hell NHC is talking about


Yeah, I think some of the local weather guys are believing their own eyes and the radar...and not the "moving NW @ 8mph" form the Nhc.


TWC seems to see the W movement casued by the steering high front to the north.
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#8117 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:41 pm

SunnyThoughts wrote:
CronkPSU wrote:wgno crew are all saying it has to be going west (and maybe even WSW) and wondering what the hell NHC is talking about


Yeah, I think some of the local weather guys are believing their own eyes and the radar...and not the "moving NW @ 8mph" form the Nhc.


I think that the NHC was waiting to see if the current motion was a wobble or a direction change before commiting to a direction change

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#8118 Postby sfgal » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:41 pm

OK -- now I am experiencing the optical illusions caused by radar, because in the last radar posted by Cronk (linked below), I see southeast movement.

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?prod ... X&loop=yes
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#8119 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:41 pm

Been blasting the last couple hours. For everyone mentioning the warming cloud tops, know that most of the local TV models show continued pulses over the next 24 hours. Two divergent ones showed rotating pulses around the center and over nola later this morning and another in the afternoon. Watch for re-genesis of the colder tops over the next day or so.
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#8120 Postby nashrobertsx » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:42 pm

does anyone know how to monitor the ham radio guys? how do i get that transmission?
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