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#5401 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:53 pm

Anytime! Hey, I get to learn with yall as well...
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#5402 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:05 pm

NAM is a descent amount EAST of the 12z run so far through 18 hours...moving NNE to N
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#5403 Postby BigB0882 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:09 pm

I know everyone is now really excited to see this miss the forecast points but please don't forget that the NAM should not be used to see TC position. It is horribly unreliable for that but is great for the synoptics.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5404 Postby PTPatrick » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:09 pm

I was just noticing that too. I'm sold on a Biloxi to Bay st Louis landfall based on trends in the models and watching t move north of forecast all day. Plus the weakness is obviously there...im thinking it's going to take drive up hwy 49 to Hattiesburg and Jackson.

Overall it shouldn't make much difference in ms/al other than perhaps higher surge in East Jackson county and mobile bay.
It could effect sensible weather in the baton rouge to Nola areas thugh if it comes this far east.

This is just my humble opinion. I'm not a met. Don't use this for planning.
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#5405 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:14 pm

NAM is a good amount East this run...landfall looks like its going to be btwn gulfport and biloxi, as well as I can tell....12z run was back towards Central LA
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#5406 Postby thatwhichisnt » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:18 pm

deltadog03 wrote:NAM is a good amount East this run...landfall looks like its going to be btwn gulfport and biloxi, as well as I can tell....12z run was back towards Central LA


I hate to say I don't see it as you are far more knowledgeable than me, however to get there it has to start going almost due north to get there. The core looks almost due south of Mobile.
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#5407 Postby PTPatrick » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:20 pm

thatwhichisnt wrote:
deltadog03 wrote:NAM is a good amount East this run...landfall looks like its going to be btwn gulfport and biloxi, as well as I can tell....12z run was back towards Central LA


I hate to say I don't see it as you are far more knowledgeable than me, however to get there it has to start going almost due north to get there. The core looks almost due south of Mobile.




More like due south of Destin...
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#5408 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:22 pm

The nam does show a bigger weakness this run as well.
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#5409 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:23 pm

thatwhichisnt wrote:
deltadog03 wrote:NAM is a good amount East this run...landfall looks like its going to be btwn gulfport and biloxi, as well as I can tell....12z run was back towards Central LA


I hate to say I don't see it as you are far more knowledgeable than me, however to get there it has to start going almost due north to get there. The core looks almost due south of Mobile.


why the disrespect. All he is doing is telling what the nam is showing
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#5410 Postby thatwhichisnt » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:23 pm

PTPatrick wrote:
thatwhichisnt wrote:
deltadog03 wrote:NAM is a good amount East this run...landfall looks like its going to be btwn gulfport and biloxi, as well as I can tell....12z run was back towards Central LA


I hate to say I don't see it as you are far more knowledgeable than me, however to get there it has to start going almost due north to get there. The core looks almost due south of Mobile.




More like due south of Destin...

Maybe more around the AL/FL border, but regardless I don't see that drastic of a movement on the radar. I will be glad to eat my words though.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5411 Postby ATCcane » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:38 pm

NCEP North American Model (NAM) 08.28.2012 00:00z

http://www.weatherbellmodels.com/weathe ... t_loop.php
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#5412 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:44 pm

Might be a little east in very short term, then moves wnw/nw directly over NO. Then takes a interesting west jog across SE LA. Obviously weakness fills in and high locks northward turn. Interesting run.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5413 Postby thatwhichisnt » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:46 pm

ATCcane wrote:NCEP North American Model (NAM) 08.28.2012 00:00z

http://www.weatherbellmodels.com/weathe ... t_loop.php


I dont like that due west motion after the landfall. It is as if it says to me, "Oh you didn't like the NE side? Here is the eye wall for you to have fun with".
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#5414 Postby wxwatcher1999 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:47 pm

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:Might be a little east in very short term, then moves wnw/nw directly over NO. Then takes a interesting west jog across SE LA. Obviously weakness fills in and high locks northward turn. Interesting run.



with it slowing down now could it be making that western turn earlier than expected?
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#5415 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:57 pm

Looks like at the end as if it is fixing to do a cyclonic loop and get back down into the Gulf.
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#5416 Postby rainstorm » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:57 pm

wxwatcher1999 wrote:
CYCLONE MIKE wrote:Might be a little east in very short term, then moves wnw/nw directly over NO. Then takes a interesting west jog across SE LA. Obviously weakness fills in and high locks northward turn. Interesting run.



with it slowing down now could it be making that western turn earlier than expected?



probably not. that would be a bad run for NO if it gets down to 960 or so.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5417 Postby Wx_Warrior » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:58 pm

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#5418 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:59 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:Looks like at the end as if it is fixing to do a cyclonic loop and get back down into the Gulf.


Thought that as well Dean. Now that would be something. Lee was supposed to do that but never happened.
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#5419 Postby rainstorm » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:59 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:Looks like at the end as if it is fixing to do a cyclonic loop and get back down into the Gulf.



will be really interesting to see the GFS. thats a big west change for the NAM.
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#5420 Postby Turtle » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:05 pm

rainstorm wrote:
Dean4Storms wrote:Looks like at the end as if it is fixing to do a cyclonic loop and get back down into the Gulf.



will be really interesting to see the GFS. thats a big west change for the NAM.

May I have the link to the model?

Also, the new NHC cone is a touch to the east.
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