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#5101 Postby Dean4Storms » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:46 pm

GFS appears to hold firm once again, west movement right along the LA coastline!
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5102 Postby Ntxw » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:46 pm

Looks like a Morgan City, La full landfall on 0z gfs heading wnw
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#5103 Postby Texashawk » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:47 pm

Is this with all the new atmo data included?
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#5104 Postby HurricaneBrain » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:47 pm

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#5105 Postby Wx_Warrior » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:47 pm

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#5106 Postby ROCK » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:47 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:GFS appears to hold firm once again, west movement right along the LA coastline!



yep high building in from the north....just offshore...
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5107 Postby HurrMark » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:48 pm

Nothing really changing...not as intense, but I don't think we should rely on GFS for intensity modeling. Same story with it approaching SE LA and then drifting west right along or maybe just off the coast. Might be a tad more inland with this run.
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#5108 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:50 pm

New Orleans on the northeast quadrant on the GFS 48 hr run. That will be absolutely terrible if that pan out, especially if the cyclone strengthens into high end Cat 2 or Cat 3.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5109 Postby Ntxw » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:50 pm

Difference between 0z GFS and 12z really is only a few miles north vs south, slightly on the coast vs just off.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5110 Postby GeneratorPower » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:50 pm

Something doesn't seem right about this skirting of the LA coast. Seems to me that the steering currents aren't well defined and that is a problem. The sharp angle at which it is approaching the coast is also problematic because a tiny difference in track makes a huge difference in landfall point.
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#5111 Postby deltadog03 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:51 pm

hmmm...HR 48 at H5, the upper trof is MUCH more pronounced in the SE. I wonder why the GFS didn't pick this up. That is much stronger and further south than the 12z run......hmmmm
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#5112 Postby Red Seal » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:51 pm

ROCK wrote:
Dean4Storms wrote:GFS appears to hold firm once again, west movement right along the LA coastline!



yep high building in from the north....just offshore...


What a place to hang out!
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#5113 Postby deltadog03 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:51 pm

Honestly, this should have been picked up at hour 48-54....that is the strongest/furtherest south with that weakness....
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#5114 Postby HurricaneBrain » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:51 pm

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#5115 Postby HurricaneBrain » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:52 pm

Looks to be stalling near TX/LA border at 72hr.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5116 Postby StormClouds63 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:53 pm

This looks a lot like the forecast for Gustav ... especially the wnw/w drift after landfall. However, Gustav did not move west after landfall (Morgan City), but rather NNW ... and gave Baton Rouge a terrible beating.
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#5117 Postby Nikki » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:53 pm

deltadog03 wrote:hmmm...HR 48 at H5, the upper trof is MUCH more pronounced in the SE. I wonder why the GFS didn't pick this up. That is much stronger and further south than the 12z run......hmmmm



Could you please tell me what this means, in terms I can understand? :D
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#5118 Postby HurrMark » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:54 pm

deltadog03 wrote:Honestly, this should have been picked up at hour 48-54....that is the strongest/furtherest south with that weakness....


Are you sure...I compared 200-500 mb heights at 12Z vs. 00z and it looks more pronounced at 12z.
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#5119 Postby PTPatrick » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:54 pm

deltadog03 wrote:Honestly, this should have been picked up at hour 48-54....that is the strongest/furtherest south with that weakness....



Agreed delta! I wonder if ensembles/gfdl/hwrf will feel the weakness. I wanna trust gfs cuz its better for my folks in Pascagoula. But with that and still some eastern model support, and possible north reformation, I can't.
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#5120 Postby deltadog03 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:55 pm

Nikki wrote:
deltadog03 wrote:hmmm...HR 48 at H5, the upper trof is MUCH more pronounced in the SE. I wonder why the GFS didn't pick this up. That is much stronger and further south than the 12z run......hmmmm



Could you please tell me what this means, in terms I can understand? :D

The gfs trended stronger with the weakness, coming down from the ohio valley, and it still didn't pick up Isaac.....We shall see if that is right, its a VERY tough forecast.
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