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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane

#4561 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:45 am

Saved RBTOP image. Look at that eye clear out after landfall.

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane

#4562 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:48 am

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane

#4563 Postby Florida1118 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:02 am

...ERNESTO BRINGING STRONG WINDS AND HEAVY RAINFALL TO THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF YUCATAN PENINSULA...

4:00 AM CDT Wed Aug 8
Location: 18.9°N 89.0°W
Moving: W at 15 mph
Min pressure: 987 mb
Max sustained: 70 mph
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#4564 Postby somethingfunny » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:06 am

I've seen another storm clear out an eye over the Yucatan like that, but I can't remember which one it was. It may have been a tropical storm. Alex, Karl? Does anybody remember the storm I'm talking about?

I sure wish that recon flight hadn't had technical difficulties... it would be fascinating to learn more about why some storms barely decay at all over the Yucatan. And relevant...
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#4565 Postby Chickenzilla » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:24 am

somethingfunny wrote:I've seen another storm clear out an eye over the Yucatan like that, but I can't remember which one it was. It may have been a tropical storm. Alex, Karl? Does anybody remember the storm I'm talking about?

I think it was Karl. Alex weakened to a TD after crossing the Yucatan.
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#4566 Postby Chickenzilla » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:43 am

Ernesto has a convective burst directly over the center. :darrow:
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#4567 Postby somethingfunny » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:50 am

A 275 degree heading, pretty much the shortest distance to the other coast.
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#4568 Postby brunota2003 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:56 am

It was Karl from 2010...Karl also RI'ed after he got into the BOC.
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#4569 Postby brunota2003 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:01 am

Looks like Ernesto is back to either due west, or south of west. If he keeps his current heading, he is only barely going to get back over water...if at all.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane

#4570 Postby somethingfunny » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:24 am

This looks like a southward wobble, but I think the eye is just above that black patch in the last frame - the convective burst Chickenzilla pointed out makes it appear like the eye sank south, but Ernesto should still be on track to take the path of least resistance into the Bay of Campeche as quickly as possible.

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Right along 19°N, which is right where it needs to be to make the crossing ASAP:

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#4571 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:32 am

Wow that was very impressive, Ernesto was bombing as it came inland and it was so strong that Ernesto continued to improve its structure even as it moved 20-30 miles inland.

Amazing stuff.

I now wonder whether Ernesto will have time to become a hurricane again on the other side or whether it'll be too close to land.
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#4572 Postby KBBOCA » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:54 am

I don't have much time today to go back through archives to look, but didn't Dean and Felix both hit in the same area and intensify strongly (both to Cat 5?) as they came ashore?

I will have time to research later... but this is what I'm remembering.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#4573 Postby Sanibel » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:56 am

Don't know how much water it will get now upon re-emergence.


NHC on top of track now.


The models showing a north track busted badly on this storm.
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#4574 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:58 am

KBBOCA wrote:I don't have much time today to go back through archives to look, but didn't Dean and Felix both hit in the same area and intensify strongly (both to Cat 5?) as they came ashore?

I will have time to research later... but this is what I'm remembering.


Hurricane Dean did:
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Felix was further south.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#4575 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:01 am

Sanibel wrote:Don't know how much water it will get now upon re-emergence.


I'm thinking the same thing, if it was say 100 miles further north I'd be confident that this becomes a hurricane again, but I'm not sure its going to have the time, unless it pulls a Karl and totally explodes.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#4576 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:03 am

Unless it's decoupled or the MLC is sheared south I'm starting to wonder if this will re-emerge.

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#4577 Postby brunota2003 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:11 am

80 knots sounds right for the peak intensity...if it was over water when the eye started warming, I would of said it looked closer to 90 or 95 knots...but because it only appeared/warmed after moving inland (frictional effects most likely aided in that), I don't think it was any higher than 80 knots...though I guess you could make an argument for 85 knots.

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#4578 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:30 am

Landfall pressure was about 978mb based on surface data, so that would suggest an intensity around 80 kt.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#4579 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:48 am

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#4580 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:09 am

Not a lot of frames available yet but I'm not seeing any NW movement, still west and possibly SW.

Rapid Scan live visible loop: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... umframes=6
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