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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Models

#2001 Postby tolakram » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:22 pm

I doubt they react at all the the 18z, but maybe if the 0z shows the same.
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2002 Postby Air Force Met » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:24 pm

One thing is for sure...Debby is spitting out a mid level vort center. It's up near 27/28 and 85 and on it's way to Florida. We should see a new re-fire of convection near the center.
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2003 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:28 pm

PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
908 PM EDT SAT JUN 23 2012

.TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON

.DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE.

..REMARKS..

0335 PM TORNADO 3 ESE NAPLES 26.12N 81.75W
06/23/2012 COLLIER FL NWS STORM SURVEY

SURVEY OF DAMAGE IN EAST NAPLES REVEALED MAINLY BROKEN
TREE BRANCHES, UPROOTED SMALL TREES AND A PALM TREE SPLIT
IN HALF. A POOL LANAI WAS HEAVILY DAMAGED, BUT ONLY MINOR
ROOF DAMAGE TO STRUCTURES WAS NOTED. WELL-DEFINED DAMAGE
PATH SUGGESTS LOW-END F0 TORNADO WITH WINDS LIKELY NO
MORE THAN 70 MPH. DISCONTINUOUS PATH LENGTH APPROXIMATELY
1.7 MILES WITH WIDTH LIKELY NO MORE THAN 10-20 YARDS.

0400 PM TORNADO 2 E VANDERBILT BEACH 26.27N 81.79W
06/23/2012 COLLIER FL LAW ENFORCEMENT

*** 1 INJ *** PROBABLE BRIEF TORNADO TOUCHDOWN AT NORTH
COLLIER HOSPITAL ON CORNER OF IMMOKALEE AND
GOODLETTE-FRANK ROADS IN NORTH NAPLES AREA. DAMAGE
REPORTED TO TREES AND LIGHT POLES, BUT NO STRUCTURAL
DAMAGE. A PERSON WAS STRUCK BY A DOWNED TREE LIMB AND WAS
TREATED ON-SITE. TORNADO LIKELY SPAWNED BY SAME STORM
THAT PRODUCED EARLIER TORNADO IN EAST NAPLES.
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Models

#2004 Postby ROCK » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:29 pm

JMO, I think they will shift the cone some right with the HWRF and GFDL shifts but not by much...
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2005 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:30 pm

Air Force Met wrote:One thing is for sure...Debby is spitting out a mid level vort center. It's up near 27/28 and 85 and on it's way to Florida. We should see a new re-fire of convection near the center.


This is exactly what the GFS has been showing for the last several runs, maybe the GFS scores on this one, you can see the mid level heading for the Big bend of Florida and a Surfavce low about 150 miles SW at the edge of the convection

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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2006 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:31 pm

Air Force Met wrote:One thing is for sure...Debby is spitting out a mid level vort center. It's up near 27/28 and 85 and on it's way to Florida. We should see a new re-fire of convection near the center.


Showing up on Long Range Tampa radar.
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2007 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:31 pm

Air Force Met wrote:One thing is for sure...Debby is spitting out a mid level vort center. It's up near 27/28 and 85 and on it's way to Florida. We should see a new re-fire of convection near the center.

Which center, the MLC, or LLC?
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Models

#2008 Postby ROCK » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:31 pm

18z NOGAPS...spits out something from Debby then send the remaing into the lower TX coast around CC....

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/wxmap_cgi/cg ... t=Tropical
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2009 Postby summersquall » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:32 pm

caneman wrote:Can anyone tell me or have a link for what the sea heights are? Leaving for a cruise tomorrow will be heading to Key West and then Cayman. Thanks


This may help: http://www.intellicast.com/Travel/Weath ... Waves.aspx
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2010 Postby SFLcane » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:32 pm

Air Force Met wrote:One thing is for sure...Debby is spitting out a mid level vort center. It's up near 27/28 and 85 and on it's way to Florida. We should see a new re-fire of convection near the center.


Which center lol.. :lol: This still looks heavily sheared to me with all its strong tc winds well removed from its mulitple centers.
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2011 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:33 pm

Updated 00z Best Track/Pressure down to 999 mbs

AL, 04, 2012062400, , BEST, 0, 261N, 875W, 45, 999, TS

http://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/inve ... 012.invest
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2012 Postby Air Force Met » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:34 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:
Air Force Met wrote:One thing is for sure...Debby is spitting out a mid level vort center. It's up near 27/28 and 85 and on it's way to Florida. We should see a new re-fire of convection near the center.

Which center, the MLC, or LLC?


mid level vort center.

The whole circulation....in other words...the MLC is going going gone...
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#2013 Postby bamajammer4eva » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:34 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:In the 5pm Discussion, the NHC said that one reason it chose to side with the Euro was because more than half of the GFS ensembles went that route as well.

Well, a majority of the 18z GFS ensembles are tightly clustered in Central Florida now. Lets see how the NHC reacts at 11:

http://icons-ak.wunderground.com/data/i ... smodel.gif


Wow only one shows a TX landfall now-everything else is East of NHC track
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2014 Postby Terry » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:34 pm

Ixolib wrote:With all the talk about the GFS track (eastward) vs. NHC track (westward), I'm wondering if anyone recalls a time when the NHC flip-flopped it's forecast track by 180 degrees? Seems to me that in the last several years, the NHC track has generally always come to fruition within a few miles, but never have I seen a 180 degree shift. Well, maybe Betsy in '65 and Elena in '85, but those were both eons ago, technologically speaking.

This from the NHC:
...EVEN THOUGH THE DETERMINISTIC GFS SHOWS AN EASTWARD TRACK...MORE THAN HALF OF THE GFS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE WESTWARD-MOVING MODELS...MAKING THE WESTWARD SCENARIO SEEM MORE LIKELY...


Having gone through Elena on a low lying barrier island at the south end of Tampa Bay these things always get my attention. We've already lost two feet of beach & who knows how many turtle nests.....
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2015 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:35 pm

Air Force Met wrote:
Hurricane Andrew wrote:
Air Force Met wrote:One thing is for sure...Debby is spitting out a mid level vort center. It's up near 27/28 and 85 and on it's way to Florida. We should see a new re-fire of convection near the center.

Which center, the MLC, or LLC?


mid level vort center.

So, does the cnte of Debby stay with the LLCs?
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2016 Postby stormhunter7 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:36 pm

Ship has 29.85 pressure... south winds at 44mph at 00z. East of center
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ATL: DEBBY - Models

#2017 Postby HouTXmetro » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:37 pm

I think it's clear that some mid level stuff wil get split off. And Debby will maintain some sort of low level LLC that will shoot to the west. summation a weak system. But I highly doubt the storm itself moves east into florida.

(Disclaimer: in my unprofessional opinion)
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2018 Postby tolakram » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:39 pm

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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2019 Postby TexasF6 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:41 pm

stormhunter7 wrote:http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/radial_search.php?storm=at4 See Ship ZCDJ2... closet to Debby COC


Stormhunter, was that ship reporting a 13ft seas/wave height? Or was I seeing things? Thanks for the post.
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2020 Postby ronjon » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:42 pm

Well it certainly isn't very organized nor do I see it doing anything much
in the short term.
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