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Another Gulf storm? - (Is invest 96L)

#1 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:50 am

GFS has been on to another system developing in the BOC and heading up toward the northern Gulf coast. Last night, the Euro jumped on board.

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Re: Another Gulf storm?

#2 Postby BigA » Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:52 am

The FIM/FIMY experimental models also develop a tropical cyclone in the same time frame.
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Re: Another Gulf storm?

#3 Postby PTrackerLA » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:21 am

Very interesting developments down there. Looks like the Gulf is far from done this season.
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Re: Another Gulf storm?

#4 Postby wxman57 » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:41 am

Bogus storm, I think. GFS has that problem with the BoC when cold fronts start moving into the area. I doubt it'll be more than a naturally-occurring frontal wave/weak low in the BoC for a few days. Euro and Canadian show a weak low that dissipates down there, and the Euro's low on the map above is for a week from now, not 2 days from now as per the GFS.
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Re: Another Gulf storm?

#5 Postby vbhoutex » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:44 am

PTrackerLA wrote:Very interesting developments down there. Looks like the Gulf is far from done this season.

Gotta cool that bathtub down somehow. :roll: :roll: If it comes to fruition it looks like it will be taking a track, based on the models posted, that no one really needs after dealing with Lee.
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Re: Another Gulf storm?

#6 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:56 am

At the 12z run of GFS is a Mexico storm.

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Re: Another Gulf storm?

#7 Postby BigA » Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:39 pm

12Z Canadian more aggressive in development than the 00Z run. Quite similar to the 00 and 06 GFS runs. Deepening and lifting NNE in 144 hours.

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Seems to form from energy from the trough breaking off in the BOC, similar to the GFS setup.

Low forms in 4-5 days, so not that long-range.

Lets see what Euro says
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Re: Another Gulf storm?

#8 Postby underthwx » Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:29 pm

THE TAIL END OF THE
MONDAY FRONT WILL EVENTUALLY PUSH DOWN INTO THE SOUTHWEST GULF...
WHERE THE GFS IS HINTING AT THE SPIN UP OF A LOW PRESSURE AREA...
WHICH MAY DEEPEN SOMEWHAT RIGHT AT THE END OF THE LONG TERM...BUT
THE POTENTIAL EFFECTS FARTHER IN THE FUTURE WILL NOT BE AN ISSUE
FOR THE FORECAST AT THIS TIME


portion of brownsville afd...



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Re: Another Gulf storm?

#9 Postby rockyman » Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:56 pm

18z NAM is on board...here is the 84 hour map:

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Re: Another Gulf storm?

#10 Postby underthwx » Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:05 pm

IN THE EXTENDED FORECAST...DRY NORTHERLY FLOW EXPECTED TO PERSIST
ACROSS THE REGION AS WE WILL LIE BETWEEN A CUTOFF LOW ACROSS THE
EAST CENTRAL US AND THE UPPER LEVEL RIDGE TO OUR WEST. THE PAST
COUPLE OF RUNS OF THE GLOBAL MODELS HAVE DEVELOPED A WEAK SURFACE
LOW ACROSS THE BAY OF CAMPECHE BY LATE IN THE WEEK...THE GFS AND
CANADIAN MODELS STRENGTHEN THIS SYSTEM WHILE THE LATEST ECMWF RUN
DOES NOT.


houston afd....
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Re: Another Gulf storm?

#11 Postby Portastorm » Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:07 pm

Wouldn't be the first time a decaying frontal boundary spun up a low in the Bay of Campeche. I'm guessing that would be the driver for something to form.

So far, model guidance seems to suggest a threat more to the Central and Eastern Gulf coast.
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Re: Another Gulf storm?

#12 Postby rockyman » Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:09 pm

12z NOGAPS starts cranking in the BOC in 48 hours:
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Stays weak and heads slowly northeast through Day 6
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Re: Another Gulf storm?

#13 Postby bigdan35 » Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:30 pm

I think things could get interesting next week in the gulf or Caribbean :cheesy:










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#14 Postby rockyman » Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:05 pm

18z GFS running...shows festering low pressure in the BOC and NW Caribbean through 66 hours.

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Re: Another Gulf storm?

#15 Postby underthwx » Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:11 pm

THE ONLY ITEM TO NOTE FOR THE EXTENDED PERIOD
IS SEVERAL MEDIUM RANGE MODELS DEVELOP A TROPICAL SYSTEM IN THE BAY
OF CAMPECHE AT LEAST BY THURSDAY. BUT UPPER PATTERN IS SUCH THAT
SYSTEM WOULD ONLY DRIFT TO THE NORTH AND NORTHWEST AND BE WEST OF
THE YUCATAN PENINSULA BY SUNDAY.


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Re: Another Gulf storm?

#16 Postby bigdan35 » Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:12 pm

So far thru 87hrs on gfs nothing much but we will see 8-)









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#17 Postby rockyman » Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:18 pm

18z GFS:

Monday through Thursday--gradually lowering pressures over the Bay of Campeche and northwest Caribbean

Friday through Sunday--low closes off and deepens to 1005, begins moving NNE, just north of Yucatan Peninsula...tropical depression or weak tropical storm moving toward the northern Gulf Coast by Sunday

Monday, Sept 12--Landfall near Panama City as a tropical depression or weak tropical storm
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Re: Another Gulf storm?

#18 Postby bigdan35 » Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:23 pm

looking so far could be a north or northeast gulf storm but who knows :lol:










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Re: Another Gulf storm?

#19 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:01 pm

Posted this on the model page so decided to move it over here as well. Looks like we have some decent model support for possible development down there later this week. Something definitely to watch for. Wednesday or thursday looks to be the time to really start watching things down there. Makes me think back to Opal from years ago. She didn't form on the tail end of a stalled out cold front but did come out the BOC and bombed overnight while moving north in the gulf. Scared the you know what out of folks around here.
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Re: Another Gulf storm?

#20 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:17 pm

No mention from Baton Rouge or Mobile NWS office's afternoon long range discussion. Thought at least they would mention it since a good number of models are showing the possibility. Guess they are worrying about Lee's forecast first.
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