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#1321 Postby meriland23 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:15 pm

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Re: ATL: KATIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1322 Postby Macrocane » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:15 pm

MGC wrote:Giant ULL awaits Katia. Katia had better build up some ACE because unless the ULL moves it is going to wind whip Katia......MGC


Are you talking about this one?

THE HURRICANE IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN IN A LOW SHEAR ENVIRONMENT
AND OVER WARM WATER DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO...WHICH SHOULD FAVOR
ADDITIONAL STRENGTHENING. AFTER THAT TIME...A MID- TO UPPER-LEVEL
TROUGH SEEN IN WATER VAPOR IMAGERY BETWEEN 50W AND 60W IS FORECAST
BY THE GLOBAL MODELS TO WEAKEN.
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1323 Postby SouthFloridawx » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:19 pm

Macrocane wrote:
MGC wrote:Giant ULL awaits Katia. Katia had better build up some ACE because unless the ULL moves it is going to wind whip Katia......MGC


Are you talking about this one?

THE HURRICANE IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN IN A LOW SHEAR ENVIRONMENT
AND OVER WARM WATER DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO...WHICH SHOULD FAVOR
ADDITIONAL STRENGTHENING. AFTER THAT TIME...A MID- TO UPPER-LEVEL
TROUGH SEEN IN WATER VAPOR IMAGERY BETWEEN 50W AND 60W IS FORECAST
BY THE GLOBAL MODELS TO WEAKEN.


Yes I noticed this yesterday. I kind of think this will inhibit development some time down the road.

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#1324 Postby meriland23 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:20 pm

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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#1325 Postby SouthFloridawx » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:25 pm

Nogaps is out to 90 Hours now and still see's it westward.

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#1326 Postby meriland23 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:27 pm

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#1327 Postby USTropics » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:27 pm

Stronger trough this run (GFS 00z), looks like Bermuda may take a big hit though.
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#1328 Postby SouthFloridawx » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:29 pm

I'm thinking GFS is weaking the Ridge too much due to the ULL.
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#1329 Postby Zarniwoop » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:30 pm

What does ULL mean? Sorry, I looked for a definition. Couldn't find one.
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#1330 Postby HurricaneWarning92 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:31 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:What does ULL mean? Sorry, I looked for a definition. Couldn't find one.


Upper Level Low.
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#1331 Postby SouthFloridawx » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:33 pm

NOGAPS at 120 Hours. Definitely farther South and West of the GFS.

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#1332 Postby meriland23 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:33 pm

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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#1333 Postby ROCK » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:35 pm

GFS has been horrible with breaken down ridging to quickly....dont see any reason why its not doing the same thing here....
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#1334 Postby meriland23 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:35 pm

gfs is really sticking it to the right more this time
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#1335 Postby SouthFloridawx » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:38 pm

Here's a link to the 1000-500mb thickness chart. It's still at 120 Hours now.

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/wxmap_cgi/cgi-bin/wxmap_loop.cgi?&area=ngp_atlantic&prod=thk&dtg=2011090100&set=All
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#1336 Postby USTropics » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:39 pm

ROCK wrote:GFS has been horrible with breaken down ridging to quickly....dont see any reason why its not doing the same thing here....


Yea suspect run, it has a pretty decent trough but at the same time indicates ridging by driving 93L actually SW into Mexico/Texas border. Also Bermuda takes a direct hit in this run.
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#1337 Postby meriland23 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:39 pm

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#1338 Postby meriland23 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:42 pm

216h and its out..
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#1339 Postby SouthFloridawx » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:43 pm

The one to the South of the Ridge is already approaching 50W and it will have a strengthening Ridge. This will be the one to watch.
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#1340 Postby meriland23 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:45 pm

Not sure what to think of this model run. See, you guys look at this and see something I do not. Not exactly sure what is or is going on with this 'ridging' or 'trough' that everyone is debating on. Apparently one degrading or sustaining more than the other indicates direction of this storm and I am like this :?: but hey, I am 23 years old so I got time to learn :P haha. Anyways, can anyone dummy down these graphs and why you guys think certain runs are incorrect ?
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