ATL: IRENE - Remnants - Discussion
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion
Why are some of the reporters on CNN standing in the "middle" of the sea?
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I've been monitoring the Dominion Power site through the day. About 63% of their customers in the Richmond/Tri Cities area without power right now. Just gives you an idea of the expansive size of this storm. Goes to show that a wet ground via heavy rain combined with winds in the 30-40 mph range can cause havoc when it comes to power outages. Will be interesting to see the outage numbers as Irene continues to track towards the NE.
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wlfpack81 wrote:I've been monitoring the Dominion Power site through the day. About 63% of their customers in the Richmond/Tri Cities area without power right now. Just gives you an idea of the expansive size of this storm. Goes to show that a wet ground via heavy rain combined with winds in the 30-40 mph range can cause havoc when it comes to power outages. Will be interesting to see the outage numbers as Irene continues to track towards the NE.
I'm expecting winds gusting 45 or so, so if I get the rain, I can expect power outages myself?
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion
30 frame live visible loop. Speed up for full effect.
http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... mframes=30
http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... mframes=30
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion
expat2carib wrote:Why are some of the reporters on CNN standing in the "middle" of the sea?
Maybe they want to become a statistic?

Also, Irene seems to really be dumping the rain!! The inland flooding reports are going to be pretty significant, too.
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In this case the wind is blowing water... and a bunch of it.. I think NYC was on the money closing up the city...
In this case the wind is blowing water... and a bunch of it.. I think NYC was on the money closing up the city...
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion
am i the only one who would say that it looks better on visual now than it did 24 hours ago?
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Just like Jon Snow..."I know nothing" except what I know, and most of what I know is gathered by the fine people of the NHC
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion
From a little earlier today.
Irene and 91L

Irene and 91L

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Re: ATL: IRENE - Recon
South Carolina coast, nearing NC border.
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AF304 3409A IRENE HDOB 13 20110827
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion
expat2carib wrote:Why are some of the reporters on CNN standing in the "middle" of the sea?
First comment from the Governor during his following interview was to tell him to "get the hell out of the water". I don't think he was joking either.
Chad Myers made an interesting comment though about how winds could be increased at street level in Manhattan due to the wind tunnel effect between the buildings.
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion
Latest surface wind analysis from HRD:

So, it looks like the low Cat 1 winds are confined to areas over the water. True hurricane-force winds likely occurred in a few areas of NC between surface observation sites, but certainly the areas that saw hurricane-strength winds were quite limited based on the very limited number of measured observations at the surface showing >64 kt sustained winds thus far today. For the most part, I wouldn't expect many more maybe one or two measured reports of hurricane-strength winds (again, sustained >64 kt, not just gusts >64 kt) associated with Irene. Duck Pier's maximum sustained wind has been ~58 kts, with a max gust of ~69 kts. See here for those obs. Of course, a 45 kt sustained winds gusting to 60 kts is nothing to sneeze at, and it's still plenty to bring down trees or blow you around, it's just not enough to cause widespread significant structural failures (houses with roofs and outer walls blown down, etc.). Most of the land observations in NC and VA are currently below tropical storm strength, though I see a few observations with 35-40 kt sustained winds.
As is common, the left / west side of this storm has considerably weaker winds than the right / east side, aided in part by frictional effects over land helping to reduce wind speeds. Considering the warming cloud tops on IR, along with the fact that Irene will soon be tracking over <26 C water, I would expect continued weakening. The minimum pressure has held pretty steady since overnight around 950 mb (+/- 1-2 mb), perhaps as a result of some nice divergence aloft associated with a jet stream to the N of Irene and a trough to its northwest.
Copious amounts of rain continue to fall largely W and N of Irene's center. Inland flooding is a very real concern -- remember that, in many storms, inland flooding kills more people than the winds!

So, it looks like the low Cat 1 winds are confined to areas over the water. True hurricane-force winds likely occurred in a few areas of NC between surface observation sites, but certainly the areas that saw hurricane-strength winds were quite limited based on the very limited number of measured observations at the surface showing >64 kt sustained winds thus far today. For the most part, I wouldn't expect many more maybe one or two measured reports of hurricane-strength winds (again, sustained >64 kt, not just gusts >64 kt) associated with Irene. Duck Pier's maximum sustained wind has been ~58 kts, with a max gust of ~69 kts. See here for those obs. Of course, a 45 kt sustained winds gusting to 60 kts is nothing to sneeze at, and it's still plenty to bring down trees or blow you around, it's just not enough to cause widespread significant structural failures (houses with roofs and outer walls blown down, etc.). Most of the land observations in NC and VA are currently below tropical storm strength, though I see a few observations with 35-40 kt sustained winds.
As is common, the left / west side of this storm has considerably weaker winds than the right / east side, aided in part by frictional effects over land helping to reduce wind speeds. Considering the warming cloud tops on IR, along with the fact that Irene will soon be tracking over <26 C water, I would expect continued weakening. The minimum pressure has held pretty steady since overnight around 950 mb (+/- 1-2 mb), perhaps as a result of some nice divergence aloft associated with a jet stream to the N of Irene and a trough to its northwest.
Copious amounts of rain continue to fall largely W and N of Irene's center. Inland flooding is a very real concern -- remember that, in many storms, inland flooding kills more people than the winds!
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion
tolakram wrote:Live visible loop, Irene and that pesky 91L
http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... mframes=30
I didn't see 91L but it sure keeps marching this way!
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion
WeatherGuesser wrote:expat2carib wrote:Why are some of the reporters on CNN standing in the "middle" of the sea?
First comment from the Governor during his following interview was to tell him to "get the hell out of the water". I don't think he was joking either.
Chad Myers made an interesting comment though about how winds could be increased at street level in Manhattan due to the wind tunnel effect between the buildings.
I have been saying this for about 10 pages ago....the tunnel effect is going to blow out glass...you have one glass go then all those little projectiles blow out more and so on....plywood is going be at a premimum was well as glass. I know for a fact that there are not that many glass manufacturers for hi-rise applications in the country...hopefully the building took precautions. once the storm gets inside a building damage will be incomprehensible.
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URNT15 KNHC 272225
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