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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L - Discussion

#1081 Postby HurrMark » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:03 am

Jeff Masters sees that if it develops, it would likely be 8 for 8:

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/article.html
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L - Discussion

#1082 Postby Sanibel » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:07 am

What you have to watch for is rapid development pre-shore. I'm not saying it will occur, just that it's possible.
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#1083 Postby Extratropical94 » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:09 am

Observation 06:

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URNT15 KNHC 171606
AF300 01FFA INVEST HDOB 06 20110817
155700 1658N 06709W 3926 07750 0430 -175 //// 173001 002 /// /// 05
155730 1658N 06712W 3928 07740 0429 -175 //// 308000 001 /// /// 05
155800 1657N 06714W 3927 07744 0430 -175 //// 005000 001 /// /// 05
155830 1656N 06717W 3929 07737 0429 -175 //// 053001 001 /// /// 05
155900 1655N 06720W 3929 07744 0430 -175 //// 091002 002 /// /// 05
155930 1655N 06722W 3926 07741 0430 -175 //// 030002 002 /// /// 05
160000 1654N 06725W 3927 07742 0429 -175 -294 025002 002 /// /// 03
160030 1653N 06728W 3927 07740 0429 -175 -432 033003 003 /// /// 03
160100 1653N 06731W 3926 07749 0431 -175 -489 040003 003 /// /// 03
160130 1652N 06733W 3927 07743 0430 -175 -511 057004 005 /// /// 03
160200 1651N 06736W 3928 07743 0431 -175 -518 057005 005 /// /// 03
160230 1650N 06739W 3927 07745 0430 -175 -520 072004 004 /// /// 03
160300 1650N 06741W 3927 07743 0430 -172 -520 075005 006 /// /// 03
160330 1649N 06744W 3929 07740 0430 -170 -519 083006 006 /// /// 03
160400 1648N 06747W 3927 07744 0430 -173 -517 098005 005 /// /// 03
160430 1648N 06750W 3929 07739 0430 -175 -516 096005 005 /// /// 03
160500 1647N 06752W 3929 07741 0430 -176 -513 101006 006 /// /// 03
160530 1646N 06755W 3928 07737 0429 -180 -512 103006 006 /// /// 03
160600 1645N 06758W 3927 07740 0428 -178 -511 109006 006 /// /// 03
160630 1645N 06800W 3927 07738 0429 -176 -509 101007 007 /// /// 03
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#1084 Postby Extratropical94 » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:17 am

Observation 07:

000
URNT15 KNHC 171616
AF300 01FFA INVEST HDOB 07 20110817
160700 1644N 06803W 3927 07745 0428 -175 -509 100007 007 /// /// 03
160730 1643N 06806W 3927 07746 0429 -175 -508 098007 007 /// /// 03
160800 1643N 06809W 3927 07741 0428 -175 -507 090007 007 /// /// 03
160830 1642N 06811W 3927 07739 0428 -175 -506 083006 006 /// /// 03
160900 1641N 06814W 3927 07742 0427 -175 -506 083006 006 /// /// 03
160930 1640N 06817W 3929 07740 0428 -175 -505 087006 007 /// /// 03
161000 1640N 06820W 3927 07744 0428 -174 -504 088007 008 /// /// 03
161030 1639N 06822W 3929 07740 0427 -170 -504 088008 008 /// /// 03
161100 1638N 06825W 3926 07740 0426 -170 -503 090007 007 /// /// 03
161130 1637N 06828W 3927 07740 0426 -172 -503 096006 007 /// /// 03
161200 1637N 06831W 3927 07736 0425 -175 -502 114005 005 /// /// 03
161230 1636N 06833W 3928 07737 0425 -170 -501 094004 006 /// /// 03
161300 1635N 06836W 3929 07736 0426 -170 -501 123003 003 /// /// 03
161330 1635N 06839W 3926 07736 0425 -170 -500 142003 003 /// /// 03
161400 1634N 06841W 3929 07730 0425 -169 -500 134004 004 /// /// 03
161430 1633N 06844W 3929 07734 0425 -169 -499 134004 005 /// /// 03
161500 1632N 06847W 3927 07739 0425 -170 -500 127004 005 /// /// 03
161530 1632N 06850W 3927 07739 0424 -173 -499 125005 005 /// /// 03
161600 1631N 06852W 3927 07737 0424 -174 -497 129006 006 /// /// 03
161630 1630N 06855W 3927 07737 0423 -171 -498 134006 006 /// /// 03
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#1085 Postby Dave » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:28 am

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#1086 Postby Extratropical94 » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:29 am

Okay, thank you very much.
Observation 08:

000
URNT15 KNHC 171626
AF300 01FFA INVEST HDOB 08 20110817
161700 1629N 06858W 3929 07732 0425 -171 -498 131005 005 /// /// 03
161730 1629N 06900W 3927 07738 0425 -170 -497 120005 006 /// /// 03
161800 1628N 06903W 3926 07745 0426 -174 -497 117004 005 /// /// 03
161830 1627N 06906W 3927 07736 0425 -175 -497 121004 004 /// /// 03
161900 1627N 06908W 3927 07737 0425 -177 -496 120005 006 /// /// 03
161930 1626N 06911W 3929 07735 0425 -180 -497 121007 007 /// /// 03
162000 1625N 06914W 3929 07735 0425 -180 -496 133006 006 /// /// 03
162030 1624N 06916W 3927 07739 0425 -180 -496 139006 006 /// /// 03
162100 1624N 06919W 3929 07738 0425 -180 -496 138005 006 /// /// 03
162130 1623N 06922W 3927 07741 0425 -180 -496 136005 005 /// /// 03
162200 1622N 06925W 3926 07740 0427 -180 -496 130004 005 /// /// 03
162230 1621N 06927W 3929 07743 0426 -180 -497 130004 005 /// /// 03
162300 1621N 06930W 3927 07736 0425 -177 -496 135005 005 /// /// 03
162330 1620N 06933W 3928 07737 0426 -175 -496 111005 005 /// /// 03
162400 1619N 06935W 3927 07739 0425 -175 -497 122006 007 /// /// 03
162430 1619N 06938W 3926 07738 0425 -175 -496 124006 007 /// /// 03
162500 1618N 06941W 3927 07735 0425 -175 -496 124008 008 /// /// 03
162530 1617N 06943W 3927 07739 0424 -175 -496 123009 009 /// /// 03
162600 1616N 06946W 3929 07735 0425 -175 -496 119010 011 /// /// 03
162630 1616N 06949W 3927 07736 0425 -175 -496 115010 011 /// /// 03
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#1087 Postby Dave » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:37 am

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#1088 Postby Extratropical94 » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:39 am

Observation 09:

000
URNT15 KNHC 171637
AF300 01FFA INVEST HDOB 09 20110817
162700 1615N 06952W 3926 07743 0426 -175 -495 120010 010 /// /// 03
162730 1614N 06954W 3927 07745 0427 -175 -495 114011 011 /// /// 03
162800 1613N 06957W 3927 07736 0426 -173 -494 109011 011 /// /// 03
162830 1613N 07000W 3929 07740 0425 -170 -494 102011 011 /// /// 03
162900 1612N 07002W 3927 07741 0425 -171 -493 105010 010 /// /// 03
162930 1611N 07005W 3929 07739 0425 -170 -492 105010 011 /// /// 03
163000 1610N 07008W 3927 07735 0425 -170 -491 105011 011 /// /// 03
163030 1610N 07011W 3928 07739 0426 -173 -492 112010 011 /// /// 03
163100 1609N 07013W 3929 07735 0426 -172 -491 109010 011 /// /// 03
163130 1608N 07016W 3927 07735 0423 -174 -490 117010 010 /// /// 03
163200 1607N 07019W 3928 07733 0421 -174 -489 117010 010 /// /// 03
163230 1607N 07022W 3927 07734 0422 -171 -489 115010 011 /// /// 03
163300 1606N 07025W 3927 07737 0424 -173 -488 119010 011 /// /// 03
163330 1605N 07027W 3929 07736 0425 -173 -489 120010 010 /// /// 03
163400 1604N 07030W 3929 07736 0426 -171 -488 111010 011 /// /// 03
163430 1603N 07033W 3929 07736 0425 -170 -487 108011 011 /// /// 03
163500 1603N 07035W 3927 07740 0426 -171 -487 117010 010 /// /// 03
163530 1602N 07038W 3928 07739 0427 -174 -487 134009 010 /// /// 03
163600 1601N 07041W 3929 07736 0427 -170 -487 122010 010 /// /// 03
163630 1600N 07044W 3927 07741 0427 -167 -486 106011 011 /// /// 03
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#1089 Postby Dave » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:45 am

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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L - Discussion

#1090 Postby NONAME » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:47 am

Hmm so Recon is actually going in today?
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#1091 Postby Extratropical94 » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:51 am

Observation 10:

000
URNT15 KNHC 171646
AF300 01FFA INVEST HDOB 10 20110817
163700 1559N 07046W 3927 07740 0426 -168 -486 111010 011 /// /// 03
163730 1559N 07049W 3926 07737 0423 -170 -485 109010 010 /// /// 03
163800 1558N 07052W 3929 07736 0424 -170 -485 102010 011 /// /// 03
163830 1557N 07054W 3927 07741 0427 -170 -485 099011 011 /// /// 03
163900 1556N 07057W 3929 07739 0429 -165 -484 094011 011 /// /// 03
163930 1555N 07100W 3926 07743 0427 -166 -483 108009 010 /// /// 03
164000 1554N 07102W 3929 07735 0424 -170 -483 115009 009 /// /// 03
164030 1554N 07102W 3929 07735 0423 -165 -483 115009 009 /// /// 03
164100 1552N 07108W 3929 07735 0423 -165 -482 111010 010 /// /// 03
164130 1551N 07110W 3927 07736 0423 -165 -482 116010 011 /// /// 03
164200 1550N 07113W 3927 07736 0423 -165 -482 120010 010 /// /// 03
164230 1549N 07116W 3927 07735 0422 -168 -480 126010 011 /// /// 03
164300 1548N 07118W 3927 07734 0423 -165 -480 123011 011 /// /// 03
164330 1547N 07121W 3930 07731 0422 -164 -481 122012 012 /// /// 03
164400 1546N 07124W 3929 07732 0422 -164 -480 119012 012 /// /// 03
164430 1545N 07126W 3926 07737 0422 -166 -480 125012 013 /// /// 03
164500 1544N 07129W 3927 07734 0421 -164 -480 125014 014 /// /// 03
164530 1543N 07131W 3927 07735 0421 -165 -479 127012 012 /// /// 03
164600 1542N 07134W 3929 07734 0422 -165 -479 130012 012 /// /// 03
164630 1541N 07136W 3928 07735 0423 -166 -479 133013 013 /// /// 03
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#1092 Postby Dave » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:55 am

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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L - Discussion

#1093 Postby SouthDadeFish » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:56 am

NONAME wrote:Hmm so Recon is actually going in today?


Yes, they are currently on their way there now.
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#1094 Postby HurrMark » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:56 am

Closest buoy is reporting east winds:

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42058

I think it is slightly south of the mid-level rotation, so my guess is that we probably don't have an LLC yet...but that is for recon to determine.
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#1095 Postby Extratropical94 » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:59 am

Observation 11:

000
URNT15 KNHC 171657
AF300 01FFA INVEST HDOB 11 20110817
164700 1540N 07139W 3927 07736 0422 -167 -479 133013 013 /// /// 03
164730 1539N 07141W 3928 07732 0421 -165 -480 128013 013 /// /// 03
164800 1538N 07144W 3927 07735 0422 -165 -480 131013 013 /// /// 03
164830 1537N 07147W 3929 07734 0422 -165 -480 128012 013 /// /// 03
164900 1536N 07149W 3926 07737 0423 -169 -481 132014 014 /// /// 03
164930 1535N 07152W 3926 07738 0422 -170 -480 132013 014 /// /// 03
165000 1534N 07154W 3926 07737 0422 -170 -480 128014 014 /// /// 03
165030 1533N 07157W 3929 07734 0422 -170 -481 128014 015 /// /// 03
165100 1532N 07159W 3927 07736 0423 -170 -481 127014 014 /// /// 03
165130 1531N 07202W 3927 07735 0422 -170 -481 125014 014 /// /// 03
165200 1530N 07204W 3928 07732 0421 -169 -481 119014 014 /// /// 03
165230 1529N 07207W 3926 07736 0420 -168 -481 122015 015 /// /// 03
165300 1528N 07209W 3930 07726 0418 -165 -480 121015 015 /// /// 03
165330 1527N 07212W 3927 07730 0418 -165 -481 127013 014 /// /// 03
165400 1526N 07214W 3929 07731 0420 -168 -480 132011 012 /// /// 03
165430 1526N 07217W 4113 07392 0405 -144 -480 135011 012 /// /// 03
165500 1525N 07219W 4310 07038 0384 -126 -479 131012 013 /// /// 03
165530 1524N 07222W 4519 06673 0362 -103 -478 139015 017 /// /// 03
165600 1523N 07224W 4733 06315 0340 -086 -475 135016 018 /// /// 03
165630 1522N 07227W 4914 06017 0318 -068 -473 139018 019 /// /// 03
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L - Discussion

#1096 Postby underthwx » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:01 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/wv.jpg





looks like a little drier air in front of 93L may tend to slow development for the time being?.......please correct me if im wrong.



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#1097 Postby Dave » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:05 pm

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#1098 Postby Extratropical94 » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:09 pm

Observation 12, descending:

000
URNT15 KNHC 171706
AF300 01FFA INVEST HDOB 12 20110817
165700 1521N 07229W 5074 05768 0305 -062 -468 134019 020 /// /// 03
165730 1520N 07231W 5306 05418 0286 -048 -463 143023 024 /// /// 03
165800 1519N 07234W 5555 05057 0159 -030 -457 140025 026 /// /// 03
165830 1518N 07236W 5815 04694 0160 -007 -451 131026 026 /// /// 03
165900 1517N 07239W 6080 04333 0170 +009 -445 138024 026 /// /// 03
165930 1516N 07241W 6352 03965 0147 +035 -441 137023 024 /// /// 03
170000 1515N 07243W 6640 03619 0159 +059 -434 135020 022 /// /// 03
170030 1515N 07245W 6916 03281 0162 +078 -428 141018 019 /// /// 03
170100 1514N 07247W 7178 02973 0165 +095 -420 138020 020 /// /// 03
170130 1513N 07250W 7391 02730 0163 +109 -407 137021 022 /// /// 03
170200 1512N 07252W 7617 02476 0176 +111 -391 132020 020 /// /// 03
170230 1512N 07253W 7805 02273 0170 +127 -374 130022 023 /// /// 03
170300 1511N 07255W 8024 02032 0169 +136 -357 131021 022 /// /// 03
170330 1510N 07257W 8259 01787 0177 +135 -337 124021 023 /// /// 03
170400 1509N 07259W 8443 01598 0176 +142 -319 131023 024 /// /// 03
170430 1509N 07300W 8653 01388 0168 +166 -305 134024 024 /// /// 03
170500 1508N 07302W 8878 01169 0165 +181 -290 130023 024 /// /// 03
170530 1508N 07304W 9117 00941 0164 +197 -272 125022 023 /// /// 03
170600 1507N 07305W 9367 00706 0161 +215 -250 123021 022 /// /// 03
170630 1506N 07307W 9623 00470 0158 +229 -235 109019 021 /// /// 03
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#1099 Postby Dave » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:11 pm

000
UZNT13 KNHC 171704
XXAA 67174 99157 70715 04451 99013 28435 10515 00115 27434 11018
92801 21818 11524 85532 18660 12023 70175 09858 13025 50589 06348
13515 40761 15376 13515 88999 77999
31313 09608 81645
61616 AF300 01FFA INVEST OB 04
62626 SPL 1576N07156W 1655 MBL WND 11020 AEV 20802 DLM WND 12521
012393 WL150 11018 084 REL 1572N07151W 164517 SPG 1576N07156W 165
546 =
XXBB 67178 99157 70715 04451 00013 28435 11948 23210 22885 19427
33850 18660 44797 16466 55755 13860 66746 13667 77730 12666 88697
09457 99675 07459 11669 07056 22638 04857 33625 04063 44615 03261
55597 02268 66590 01449 77575 00333 88552 01757 99544 01968 11538
02559 22500 06348 33493 06559 44456 09959 55446 10172 66438 11180
77409 13569 88393 16582
21212 00013 10515 11010 11019 22931 11024 33879 12026 44850 12023
55808 11522 66785 13022 77639 12523 88588 14519 99518 13019 11484
15518 22393 13013
31313 09608 81645
61616 AF300 01FFA INVEST OB 04
62626 SPL 1576N07156W 1655 MBL WND 11020 AEV 20802 DLM WND 12521
012393 WL150 11018 084 REL 1572N07151W 164517 SPG 1576N07156W 165
546 =
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#1100 Postby Dave » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:12 pm

DECODED DROPSONDE #4

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Product: Air Force Temp Drop (Dropsonde) Message (UZNT13 KNHC)
Transmitted: 17th day of the month at 17:04Z
Aircraft: Air Force Aircraft (Last 3 digits of the tail number are 300)
Mission Purpose: Investigate fifth suspect area (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 1
Observation Number: 04

Part A...


Date: Near the closest hour of 17Z on the 17th day of the month
Highest Mandatory Level For Which Wind Was Reported: 400mb
Coordinates: 15.7N 71.5W
Location: 204 miles (328 km) to the SSE (164°) from Port-au-Prince, Haiti.
Marsden Square: 044 (About)

Level Geo. Height Air Temp. Dew Point Wind Direction Wind Speed
1013mb (29.91 inHg) Sea Level (Surface) 28.4°C (83.1°F) 24.9°C (76.8°F) 105° (from the ESE) 15 knots (17 mph)
1000mb 115m (377 ft) 27.4°C (81.3°F) 24.0°C (75.2°F) 110° (from the ESE) 18 knots (21 mph)
925mb 801m (2,628 ft) 21.8°C (71.2°F) 20.0°C (68.0°F) 115° (from the ESE) 24 knots (28 mph)
850mb 1,532m (5,026 ft) 18.6°C (65.5°F) Approximately 9°C (48°F) 120° (from the ESE) 23 knots (26 mph)
700mb 3,175m (10,417 ft) 9.8°C (49.6°F) Approximately 2°C (36°F) 130° (from the SE) 25 knots (29 mph)
500mb 5,890m (19,324 ft) -6.3°C (20.7°F) -11.1°C (12.0°F) 135° (from the SE) 15 knots (17 mph)
400mb 7,610m (24,967 ft) -15.3°C (4.5°F) Approximately -41°C (-42°F) 135° (from the SE) 15 knots (17 mph)

Information About Radiosonde:
- Launch Time: 16:45Z
- About Sonde: A descending radiosonde tracked automatically by satellite navigation with no solar or infrared correction.

Remarks Section...


Splash Location: 15.76N 71.56W
Splash Time: 16:55Z

Release Location: 15.72N 71.51W View map)
Release Time: 16:45:17Z

Splash Location: 15.76N 71.56W (
Splash Time: 16:55:46Z

Mean Boundary Level Wind (mean wind in the lowest 500 geopotential meters of the sounding):
- Wind Direction: 110° (from the ESE)
- Wind Speed: 20 knots (23 mph)

Deep Layer Mean Wind (average wind over the depth of the sounding):
- Wind Direction: 125° (from the SE)
- Wind Speed: 21 knots (24 mph)
- Depth of Sounding: From 393mb to 1012mb

Average Wind Over Lowest Available 150 geopotential meters (gpm) of the sounding:
- Lowest 150m: 159 gpm - 9 gpm (522 geo. feet - 30 geo. feet)
- Wind Direction: 110° (from the ESE)
- Wind Speed: 18 knots (21 mph)

Sounding Software Version: AEV 20802


Part B: Data For Significant Levels...


Significant Temperature And Relative Humidity Levels...
Level Air Temperature Dew Point
1013mb (Surface) 28.4°C (83.1°F) 24.9°C (76.8°F)
948mb 23.2°C (73.8°F) 22.2°C (72.0°F)
885mb 19.4°C (66.9°F) 16.7°C (62.1°F)
850mb 18.6°C (65.5°F) Approximately 9°C (48°F)
797mb 16.4°C (61.5°F) Approximately 0°C (32°F)
755mb 13.8°C (56.8°F) Approximately 4°C (39°F)
746mb 13.6°C (56.5°F) Approximately -3°C (27°F)
730mb 12.6°C (54.7°F) Approximately -3°C (27°F)
697mb 9.4°C (48.9°F) Approximately 2°C (36°F)
675mb 7.4°C (45.3°F) Approximately -2°C (28°F)
669mb 7.0°C (44.6°F) Approximately 1°C (34°F)
638mb 4.8°C (40.6°F) Approximately -2°C (28°F)
625mb 4.0°C (39.2°F) Approximately -9°C (16°F)
615mb 3.2°C (37.8°F) Approximately -8°C (18°F)
597mb 2.2°C (36.0°F) Approximately -16°C (3°F)
590mb 1.4°C (34.5°F) -3.5°C (25.7°F)
575mb -0.3°C (31.5°F) -3.6°C (25.5°F)
552mb -1.7°C (28.9°F) Approximately -9°C (16°F)
544mb -1.9°C (28.6°F) Approximately -20°C (-4°F)
538mb -2.5°C (27.5°F) Approximately -12°C (10°F)
500mb -6.3°C (20.7°F) -11.1°C (12.0°F)
493mb -6.5°C (20.3°F) Approximately -16°C (3°F)
456mb -9.9°C (14.2°F) Approximately -19°C (-2°F)
446mb -10.1°C (13.8°F) Approximately -32°C (-26°F)
438mb -11.1°C (12.0°F) Reading unavailable when relative humidity is less than 20%
409mb -13.5°C (7.7°F) Approximately -32°C (-26°F)
393mb -16.5°C (2.3°F) Approximately -48°C (-54°F)

Significant Wind Levels...
Level Wind Direction Wind Speed
1013mb (Surface) 105° (from the ESE) 15 knots (17 mph)
1010mb 110° (from the ESE) 19 knots (22 mph)
931mb 110° (from the ESE) 24 knots (28 mph)
879mb 120° (from the ESE) 26 knots (30 mph)
850mb 120° (from the ESE) 23 knots (26 mph)
808mb 115° (from the ESE) 22 knots (25 mph)
785mb 130° (from the SE) 22 knots (25 mph)
639mb 125° (from the SE) 23 knots (26 mph)
588mb 145° (from the SE) 19 knots (22 mph)
518mb 130° (from the SE) 19 knots (22 mph)
484mb 155° (from the SSE) 18 knots (21 mph)
393mb 130° (from the SE) 13 knots (15 mph)


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