ATL: EMILY - Remnants

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#7941 Postby x-y-no » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:28 pm

somethingfunny wrote:Since Emily's LLC has completely dissipated, wouldn't any new vortex that forms from the remnants be named Franklin?


Remember Ivan?

I think the reasoning is that if there's any continuity at all, it gets the same name.
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#7942 Postby cpdaman » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:32 pm

ronjon wrote:1011 mb low spotted by SSD now S-SW of Andros Island. Circulation looks elongated east-west but may be tightening up. Convection certainly on the increase.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-vis.html


that low seems to have dissipated....they have had difficulty all day with placement of that low

this morning at 10 it was along N central coast then at 1 pm they moved it toward 22/76 (just read nhc 2pm disco) now it's back to the west and appears to have disintergrated. IMO the real deal is still at 23 /76.5 and soon to blossome right under deep tops as upper levels shear/flow now becomes more alligned with low level flow (FINALLY)

that blow up right near 23 along 76.5 is where i believe the LLC will be or is

http://aviationweather.gov/adds/satelli ... g&itype=ir

best vorticity right there SE OF andros island

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/w ... oom=&time=

the other crap further west is more eddy like IMO and ditto a spin further n near 25/75
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#7943 Postby plasticup » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:34 pm

x-y-no wrote:
somethingfunny wrote:Since Emily's LLC has completely dissipated, wouldn't any new vortex that forms from the remnants be named Franklin?


Remember Ivan?

I think the reasoning is that if there's any continuity at all, it gets the same name.

Basin-crossers get two names!
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#7944 Postby artist » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:35 pm

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#7945 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:36 pm

x-y-no wrote:
somethingfunny wrote:Since Emily's LLC has completely dissipated, wouldn't any new vortex that forms from the remnants be named Franklin?


Remember Ivan?

I think the reasoning is that if there's any continuity at all, it gets the same name.


That is why the threads for Emily are staying here,as for sure recon will go again,models are still running for Ex Emily and advisories will be resumed with Emily.
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#7946 Postby Hurricanehink » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:37 pm

plasticup wrote:
x-y-no wrote:
somethingfunny wrote:Since Emily's LLC has completely dissipated, wouldn't any new vortex that forms from the remnants be named Franklin?


Remember Ivan?

I think the reasoning is that if there's any continuity at all, it gets the same name.

Basin-crossers get two names!


Not anymore. They reversed that in 2001
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#7947 Postby bamajammer4eva » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:40 pm

Seems like sometimes the give it a new number/name sometimes not. Ivan retained its name but Katrina formed from TD#10 that dissipated but became TD#12 when it regenerated and later Katrina
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#7948 Postby NDG » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:42 pm

18z models in case anybody has seen yet. Notice how even the ones that have been left bias are closing in and the ones that have been right bias are also closing in. End result, possibly a track close to SE FL, don't see it coming ashore though whatever she is tomorrow.

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Re: ATL: EMILY - Remnants - Discussion

#7949 Postby NDG » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:45 pm

cpdaman wrote:
ronjon wrote:1011 mb low spotted by SSD now S-SW of Andros Island. Circulation looks elongated east-west but may be tightening up. Convection certainly on the increase.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-vis.html


that low seems to have dissipated....they have had difficulty all day with placement of that low

this morning at 10 it was along N central coast then at 1 pm they moved it toward 22/76 (just read nhc 2pm disco) now it's back to the west and appears to have disintergrated. IMO the real deal is still at 23 /76.5 and soon to blossome right under deep tops as upper levels shear/flow now becomes more alligned with low level flow (FINALLY)

that blow up right near 23 along 76.5 is where i believe the LLC will be or is

http://aviationweather.gov/adds/satelli ... g&itype=ir

best vorticity right there SE OF andros island

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/w ... oom=&time=

the other crap further west is more eddy like IMO and ditto a spin further n near 25/75


I agree, the best vorticity is SE of Andros Island.
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#7950 Postby NDG » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:06 pm

I don't think she even had this much convergence when she was a full blown storm.

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#7951 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:06 pm

This loop ends at 4:15 PM EDT.

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#7952 Postby mutley » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:09 pm

NDG wrote:I don't think she even had this much convergence when she was a full blown storm.



Could you give me a very simple definition of what "convergence" is exactly?
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#7953 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:09 pm

Looks like SE Florida may get alot of rain from this afterall, still looks like the trough is heading NW towards SE Florida with alot of convection.
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#7954 Postby artist » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:12 pm

NDG wrote:I don't think she even had this much convergence when she was a full blown storm.

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she is beginning to tap the really hot water -
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#7955 Postby Lowpressure » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:14 pm

mutley wrote:
NDG wrote:I don't think she even had this much convergence when she was a full blown storm.



Could you give me a very simple definition of what "convergence" is exactly?


CONVERGENCE
Wind movement that results in a horizontal net inflow of air into a particular region. Convergent winds at lower levels are associated with upward motion. Contrast with divergence.
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#7956 Postby Vortex » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:15 pm

Folks she is alive and ready to get going tonight....looking better by the minute!!!
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#7957 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:15 pm

very likely a LLC is developing quite quickly just south of andros at about 23.41N 77.8W
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#7958 Postby Vortex » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:17 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:very likely a LLC is developing quite quickly just south of andros at about 23.41N 77.8W



Thats where I have it Aric..."quickly" is right.
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#7959 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:19 pm

impressive. It's gone from nothing to maybe something in about 8 hours. The waters of the Bahamas have been known for ramping up systems quickly in the past. I am not detecting alot of shear in the Straits of Florida or the Bahamas either. Fortunately the area is moving and not stalling.

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#7960 Postby TwisterFanatic » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:20 pm

Well, well, well. What do we have here?
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