WPAC: NOCK-TEN (Juaning) - Tropical Depression

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#101 Postby oaba09 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:03 pm

Typhoon Hunter wrote:This is a real test for PAGASA, large areas of Luzon have been under very deep convection all night so flooding must be taking place in quite a few areas.

I have to say I'm really not impressed with JTWC who just issued 0300z advisory for 11W, a very weak TD affecting no-one, ahead of Nockten which is obviously an immediate threat to the Philippines and US military interests there.

I really do wonder why they seem to be the preferred agency of so many...


Yup,
I'm still waiting for JTWC's update....A lot of people are worried because nock ten is currently on the same track as ketsana(based on the latest PAGASA and JMA updates)...
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Re: WPAC: NOCK-TEN - Tropical Storm

#102 Postby ManilaTC » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:13 pm

JTWC will definitely f**k up on this one, Im going for JMA and PAGASA for this one indeed... Am waiting for its Presscon.
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Re: WPAC: NOCK-TEN - Tropical Storm

#103 Postby oaba09 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:17 pm

ClarkEligue wrote:JTWC will definitely f**k up on this one, Im going for JMA and PAGASA for this one indeed... Am waiting for its Presscon.


please post the details of the presscon because I can't listen to it here in the office(radios are not allowed here)...
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#104 Postby phwxenthusiast » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:17 pm

is anyone here having trouble accessing NRLMRY site??
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#105 Postby oaba09 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:25 pm

Here's the latest from JTWC:

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WTPN31 PGTW 260300
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVMARFCSTCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING//
RMKS/
1. TROPICAL STORM 10W (NOCK-TEN) WARNING NR 006
UPGRADED FROM TROPICAL DEPRESSION 10W
02 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONES IN NORTHWESTPAC
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
---
WARNING POSITION:
260000Z --- NEAR 14.1N 123.4E
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 275 DEGREES AT 09 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 060 NM
POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 035 KT, GUSTS 045 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
REPEAT POSIT: 14.1N 123.4E
---
FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
261200Z --- 15.0N 122.0E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 040 KT, GUSTS 050 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 305 DEG/ 11 KTS
---
24 HRS, VALID AT:
270000Z --- 16.2N 120.2E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 015 KT, GUSTS 025 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 295 DEG/ 13 KTS
---
36 HRS, VALID AT:
271200Z --- 17.3N 117.8E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 040 KT, GUSTS 050 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 290 DEG/ 13 KTS
---
EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
48 HRS, VALID AT:
280000Z --- 18.2N 115.3E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 050 KT, GUSTS 065 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 045 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
045 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 72 HR POSIT: 295 DEG/ 09 KTS
---
72 HRS, VALID AT:
290000Z --- 19.7N 111.8E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 050 KT, GUSTS 065 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 055 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
055 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 96 HR POSIT: 285 DEG/ 08 KTS
---
LONG RANGE OUTLOOK:
NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 250 NM
ON DAY 4 AND 350 NM ON DAY 5... AND FOR INTENSITY
NEAR 20 KT EACH DAY.
---
96 HRS, VALID AT:
300000Z --- 20.6N 108.4E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 040 KT, GUSTS 050 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 120 HR POSIT: 265 DEG/ 07 KTS
---
120 HRS, VALID AT:
310000Z --- 20.4N 105.6E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 015 KT, GUSTS 025 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
---
REMARKS:
260300Z POSITION NEAR 14.3N 123.0E.
TROPICAL STORM (TS) 10W, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 150 NM EAST-
SOUTHEAST OF MANILA, PHILIPPINES, HAS TRACKED WESTWARD AT 09 KNOTS
OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. NEXT WARNINGS AT 260900Z, 261500Z, 262100Z
AND 270300Z. REFER TO TROPICAL DEPRESSION 11W (ELEVEN) WARNINGS
(WTPN32 PGTW) FOR SIX-HOURLY UPDATES.//
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#106 Postby supercane » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:36 pm

JMA 5-day:
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JTWC 03Z prognostic reasoning:
WDPN31 PGTW 260300
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVMARFCSTCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TROPICAL STORM 10W//
WARNING NR 06//
RMKS/
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 12 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
A. TROPICAL STORM (TS) 10W, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 150 NM EAST-
SOUTHEAST OF MANILA, PHILIPPINES, HAS TRACKED WESTWARD AT 09 KNOTS
OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. THE SYSTEM HAS MADE A SIGNIFICANT BEND
SOUTH OF THE EXPECTED TRACK DURING THE PAST 12 HOURS DUE TO A STRONG
UPPER LEVEL RIDGE TO THE NORTHEAST OF LUZON. SURFACE REPORTS FROM
THE CATANDUANES RADAR SITE CONFIRM THAT THE LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION
CENTER PASSED NORTH OF THE SITE. RECENT ANIMATED MULTISPECTRAL
SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS SOME INTENSIFICATION IN CONVECTION AROUND
THE LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC). A 252043Z SSMIS IMAGE SHOWS
CLEAR ORGANIZATION AROUND THE LLCC, BUT THE MAJORITY OF DEEP
CONVECTION IS ASSOCIATED WITH LAND INTERACTION ON THE PERIPHERY OF
THE SYSTEM. TS 10W IS STILL STRUGGLING TO INTENSIFY AGAINST THE
EFFECTS OF STRONG SUBSIDENCE OVER THE NORTHERN SEMICIRCLE. ANIMATED
WATER VAPOR IMAGERY REVEALS THE SEVERE DEGREE OF SUPPRESSION TO
POLEWARD OUTFLOW. EQUATORWARD OUTFLOW REMAINS WELL ESTABLISHED,
HOWEVER, AND NET VERTICAL WIND SHEAR OVER THE SYSTEM REMAINS AT
APPROXIMATELY 15 KNOTS. A 252043Z 37 GHZ SSMIS IMAGE CONFIRMS
SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER ORGANIZATION IN THE LOW LEVEL BANDING, BUT THE
91 GHZ IMAGE SHOWS THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF DEEP CONVECTION IS
ASSOCIATED WITH LAND INTERACTION. EARLIER ASCAT IMAGERY CONFIRMED
BROAD SWATHS OF 25-30 KNOT WINDS EXTENDING OVER 100 NM AWAY FROM THE
LLCC. SURFACE REPORTS FROM COASTAL STATIONS IN COASTAL SAMAR AND
LUZON SHOW OFF-SHORE WINDS RISING AND PRESSURES FALLING. THE CURRENT
INTENSITY ESTIMATE IS BASED ON DVORAK ANALYSES OF 35 KNOTS FROM KNES
AND PGTW.
B. THE EXTREMELY WARM WATERS OF THE PHILIPPINE SEA AND EXCELLENT
EQUATORWARD OUTFLOW WILL COMPENSATE FOR THE SUPPRESSED POLEWARD
OUTFLOW AND HELP THE SYSTEM INTENSIFY TO TROPICAL STORM STRENGTH
BEFORE LANDFALL. THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE, CURRENTLY CENTERED OVER THE
BONIN ISLANDS, IS RETROGRADING SOUTHEASTWARD AND BEGINNING TO
INFLUENCE THE COURSE OF TS 10W TO A GREATER EXTENT. THE STEERING
FORCE WILL DRIVE THE SYSTEM ASHORE OVER CENTRAL LUZON NEAR TAU 18.
TS 10W WILL WEAKEN SIGNIFICANTLY AS IT TRACKS ACROSS LUZON AND TAKE
SOME TIME TO RE-GATHER STRENGTH ONCE IT ENTERS THE SOUTH CHINA SEA.
MODEL GUIDANCE HAS STABILIZED AND IS COMING INTO MUCH STRONGER
AGREEMENT REGARDING TRACK. ALL CONSENSUS MEMBERS ARE NOW SHOWING A
TRACK ACROSS NORTHERN LUZON AND AN EXIT INTO THE SOUTH CHINA SEA
SOMEWHERE NEAR OR JUST SOUTH OF THE LINGAYEN GULF. ALTHOUGH
SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS REPRESENT THE BIGGEST HAZARD TO SUBIC BAY, THE
DEGRADED INTENSITY OF THE SYSTEM IS NOT LIKELY TO RESULT IN A SEVERE
WIND EVENT. AS THE STORM MOVES AWAY FROM LUZON, THE SEASONAL
ANTICYCLONE OVER EASTERN CHINA WILL BEGIN STEERING THE SYSTEM ON A
MORE WESTWARD COURSE, AS WELL AS BRING INCREASED SHEAR TO THE
EQUATION. SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES OVER THE NORTHERN SOUTH CHINA SEA
WILL SUPPORT RE-INTENSIFICATION BUT THE INCREASED SHEAR WILL KEEP
THE DEVELOPMENT SLOW AND MILD.
C. TS 10W WILL STAY SEAWARD OF THE CHINESE COAST, TRACKING
OVER NORTHERN HAINAN OR THE LUICHOW PENINSULA AS IT MOVES INTO THE
GULF OF TONKIN. ALTHOUGH SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN HIGH
THROUGHOUT THE TRACK, THE COMBINED EFFECTS OF EASTERLY SHEAR ALOFT
AND LAND INTERACTION IN THE BOUNDARY LEVELS WILL COUPLE TO SLOWLY
WEAKEN THE SYSTEM BEFORE LANDFALL. MODEL GUIDANCE IS COMING INTO
GOOD AGREEMENT ON TRACK. THE JTWC TRACK FORECAST STAYS WITH
CONSENSUS.//
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#107 Postby oaba09 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:37 pm

WDPN31 PGTW 260300
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVMARFCSTCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TROPICAL STORM 10W//
WARNING NR 06//
RMKS/
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 12 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
A. TROPICAL STORM (TS) 10W, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 150 NM EAST-
SOUTHEAST OF MANILA, PHILIPPINES, HAS TRACKED WESTWARD AT 09 KNOTS
OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. THE SYSTEM HAS MADE A SIGNIFICANT BEND
SOUTH OF THE EXPECTED TRACK DURING THE PAST 12 HOURS DUE TO A STRONG
UPPER LEVEL RIDGE TO THE NORTHEAST OF LUZON. SURFACE REPORTS FROM
THE CATANDUANES RADAR SITE CONFIRM THAT THE LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION
CENTER PASSED NORTH OF THE SITE. RECENT ANIMATED MULTISPECTRAL
SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS SOME INTENSIFICATION IN CONVECTION AROUND
THE LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC). A 252043Z SSMIS IMAGE SHOWS
CLEAR ORGANIZATION AROUND THE LLCC, BUT THE MAJORITY OF DEEP
CONVECTION IS ASSOCIATED WITH LAND INTERACTION ON THE PERIPHERY OF
THE SYSTEM. TS 10W IS STILL STRUGGLING TO INTENSIFY AGAINST THE
EFFECTS OF STRONG SUBSIDENCE OVER THE NORTHERN SEMICIRCLE. ANIMATED
WATER VAPOR IMAGERY REVEALS THE SEVERE DEGREE OF SUPPRESSION TO
POLEWARD OUTFLOW. EQUATORWARD OUTFLOW REMAINS WELL ESTABLISHED,
HOWEVER, AND NET VERTICAL WIND SHEAR OVER THE SYSTEM REMAINS AT
APPROXIMATELY 15 KNOTS. A 252043Z 37 GHZ SSMIS IMAGE CONFIRMS
SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER ORGANIZATION IN THE LOW LEVEL BANDING, BUT THE
91 GHZ IMAGE SHOWS THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF DEEP CONVECTION IS
ASSOCIATED WITH LAND INTERACTION. EARLIER ASCAT IMAGERY CONFIRMED
BROAD SWATHS OF 25-30 KNOT WINDS EXTENDING OVER 100 NM AWAY FROM THE
LLCC. SURFACE REPORTS FROM COASTAL STATIONS IN COASTAL SAMAR AND
LUZON SHOW OFF-SHORE WINDS RISING AND PRESSURES FALLING. THE CURRENT
INTENSITY ESTIMATE IS BASED ON DVORAK ANALYSES OF 35 KNOTS FROM KNES
AND PGTW.
B. THE EXTREMELY WARM WATERS OF THE PHILIPPINE SEA AND EXCELLENT
EQUATORWARD OUTFLOW WILL COMPENSATE FOR THE SUPPRESSED POLEWARD
OUTFLOW AND HELP THE SYSTEM INTENSIFY TO TROPICAL STORM STRENGTH
BEFORE LANDFALL. THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE, CURRENTLY CENTERED OVER THE
BONIN ISLANDS, IS RETROGRADING SOUTHEASTWARD AND BEGINNING TO
INFLUENCE THE COURSE OF TS 10W TO A GREATER EXTENT. THE STEERING
FORCE WILL DRIVE THE SYSTEM ASHORE OVER CENTRAL LUZON NEAR TAU 18.
TS 10W WILL WEAKEN SIGNIFICANTLY AS IT TRACKS ACROSS LUZON AND TAKE
SOME TIME TO RE-GATHER STRENGTH ONCE IT ENTERS THE SOUTH CHINA SEA.
MODEL GUIDANCE HAS STABILIZED AND IS COMING INTO MUCH STRONGER
AGREEMENT REGARDING TRACK. ALL CONSENSUS MEMBERS ARE NOW SHOWING A
TRACK ACROSS NORTHERN LUZON AND AN EXIT INTO THE SOUTH CHINA SEA
SOMEWHERE NEAR OR JUST SOUTH OF THE LINGAYEN GULF. ALTHOUGH
SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS REPRESENT THE BIGGEST HAZARD TO SUBIC BAY, THE
DEGRADED INTENSITY OF THE SYSTEM IS NOT LIKELY TO RESULT IN A SEVERE
WIND EVENT. AS THE STORM MOVES AWAY FROM LUZON, THE SEASONAL
ANTICYCLONE OVER EASTERN CHINA WILL BEGIN STEERING THE SYSTEM ON A
MORE WESTWARD COURSE, AS WELL AS BRING INCREASED SHEAR TO THE
EQUATION. SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES OVER THE NORTHERN SOUTH CHINA SEA
WILL SUPPORT RE-INTENSIFICATION BUT THE INCREASED SHEAR WILL KEEP
THE DEVELOPMENT SLOW AND MILD.
C. TS 10W WILL STAY SEAWARD OF THE CHINESE COAST, TRACKING
OVER NORTHERN HAINAN OR THE LUICHOW PENINSULA AS IT MOVES INTO THE
GULF OF TONKIN. ALTHOUGH SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN HIGH
THROUGHOUT THE TRACK, THE COMBINED EFFECTS OF EASTERLY SHEAR ALOFT
AND LAND INTERACTION IN THE BOUNDARY LEVELS WILL COUPLE TO SLOWLY
WEAKEN THE SYSTEM BEFORE LANDFALL. MODEL GUIDANCE IS COMING INTO
GOOD AGREEMENT ON TRACK. THE JTWC TRACK FORECAST STAYS WITH
CONSENSUS.//
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#108 Postby oaba09 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:41 pm

LATEST FROM PAGASA
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notice the difference in center locations between the pagasa and jtwc track...

Tropical Storm "JUANING" continues to move West Northwest and posing a real threat to Quezon-Aurora Area.
Location of Center:
(as of 10:00 a.m.) 100 km Northeast of Daet, Camarines Norte

Coordinates: 14.9°N, 123.7°E
Strength: Maximum winds of 65 kph near the center and gustiness of up to 80 kph

Movement: West Northwest at 19 kph.

Forecast Positions/Outlook: Wednesday morning:
60 km West of Dagupan City
Thursday morning:
380 km West Northwest of Laoag City



Areas Having Public Storm Warning Signal
PSWS # Luzon Visayas Mindanao
Signal No. 2
(60-100 kph winds) Catanduanes
Albay
Camarines Norte
Camarines Sur
Quezon
Polillo Island
Aurora
None None
Signal No. 1
(45-60 kph winds) Apayao
Cagayan
Abra
Kalinga
Ilocos Norte
Ilocos Sur
Mt. Province
Isabela
Ifugao
La union
Benguet
Nueva Vizcaya
Quirino
Pangasinan
Nueva Ecija
Tarlac
Zambales
Pampanga
Bulacan
Bataan
Rizal
Cavite
Laguna
Batangas
Marinduque
Burias Island
Sorsogon
Metro Manila
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#109 Postby oaba09 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:07 pm

LATEST FROM JMA:
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TS 1108 (NOCK-TEN)
Issued at 03:45 UTC, 26 July 2011
<Analyses at 26/03 UTC>
Scale -
Intensity -
Center position N14°10'(14.2°)
E123°35'(123.6°)
Direction and speed of movement W 20km/h(10kt)
Central pressure 1000hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 18m/s(35kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 25m/s(50kt)
Area of 30kt winds or more NE260km(140NM)
SW220km(120NM)

<Forecast for 26/15 UTC>
Intensity -
Center position of probability circle N14°40'(14.7°)
E122°25'(122.4°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 10km/h(6kt)
Central pressure 996hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 20m/s(40kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 30m/s(60kt)
Radius of probability circle 90km(50NM)

<Forecast for 27/03 UTC>
Intensity -
Center position of probability circle N15°30'(15.5°)
E121°00'(121.0°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 15km/h(8kt)
Central pressure 996hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 20m/s(40kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 30m/s(60kt)
Radius of probability circle 130km(70NM)

<Forecast for 28/00 UTC>
Intensity -
Center position of probability circle N17°35'(17.6°)
E117°25'(117.4°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 20km/h(10kt)
Central pressure 990hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 23m/s(45kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 35m/s(65kt)
Radius of probability circle 200km(110NM)

<Forecast for 29/00 UTC>
Intensity -
Center position of probability circle N18°55'(18.9°)
E113°20'(113.3°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 20km/h(10kt)
Central pressure 985hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 25m/s(50kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 35m/s(70kt)
Radius of probability circle 300km(160NM)
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Re: WPAC: NOCK-TEN - Tropical Storm

#110 Postby dexterlabio » Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:37 pm

This track is similar to Ketsana's in 2009, also with the same strength of about 35kts. I've said this previously, there have been few storms who made it into the waters east of Central Luzon, and incidentally they displayed busts of deep convection around its center, and for some reason, the areas south of its center receive intense rainfall. I hope this scenario won't happen this time, I'm also concerned about the active southwest monsoonal flow that we have now that may contribute to a much deeper convection.

I have to say that I am impressed on how the local weather agency here in the Philippines has improved. The "play-safe" forecast on Songda earlier this year may be a downer, but I'm pretty sure they are now using numerical models from other international agencies and they have been doing a good job since then. Keep it up, PAGASA!
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#111 Postby euro6208 » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:05 am

wow that's some deep convection thats over some islands in the philippines right now. flooding is definitely going on right now. tropical storm nock-ten will surely affect alot of people in the next few days as euro forecasting a southern china- hainan island landfall!!!

Nock-Ten- Bird

26/0232 UTC 14.0N 123.6E T3.0/3.0 NOCK-TEN -- West Pacific

CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
2.7 /1001.0mb/ 39.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
2.6 3.0 3.3

based on those data and overall organization of nock-ten, i would place the intensity at 50 knots.



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Re: WPAC: NOCK-TEN - Tropical Storm

#112 Postby ManilaTC » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:22 am

dexterlabio wrote:This track is similar to Ketsana's in 2009, also with the same strength of about 35kts. I've said this previously, there have been few storms who made it into the waters east of Central Luzon, and incidentally they displayed busts of deep convection around its center, and for some reason, the areas south of its center receive intense rainfall. I hope this scenario won't happen this time, I'm also concerned about the active southwest monsoonal flow that we have now that may contribute to a much deeper convection.

I have to say that I am impressed on how the local weather agency here in the Philippines has improved. The "play-safe" forecast on Songda earlier this year may be a downer, but I'm pretty sure they are now using numerical models from other international agencies and they have been doing a good job since then. Keep it up, PAGASA!


Its not KETSANA its gonna be going the same track as CONSON/BASYANG!

PAGASA killer hahaha
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Re: WPAC: NOCK-TEN - Tropical Storm

#113 Postby oaba09 » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:31 am

ClarkEligue wrote:
dexterlabio wrote:This track is similar to Ketsana's in 2009, also with the same strength of about 35kts. I've said this previously, there have been few storms who made it into the waters east of Central Luzon, and incidentally they displayed busts of deep convection around its center, and for some reason, the areas south of its center receive intense rainfall. I hope this scenario won't happen this time, I'm also concerned about the active southwest monsoonal flow that we have now that may contribute to a much deeper convection.

I have to say that I am impressed on how the local weather agency here in the Philippines has improved. The "play-safe" forecast on Songda earlier this year may be a downer, but I'm pretty sure they are now using numerical models from other international agencies and they have been doing a good job since then. Keep it up, PAGASA!


Its not KETSANA its gonna be going the same track as CONSON/BASYANG!

PAGASA killer hahaha


The famous typhoon that got the head of pagasa fired....
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#114 Postby phwxenthusiast » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:08 am

cloud tops warming now... land interaction perhaps??
CDO still looks great though...
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#115 Postby oaba09 » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:52 am

latest from JMA:
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TS 1108 (NOCK-TEN)
Issued at 06:45 UTC, 26 July 2011
<Analyses at 26/06 UTC>
Scale -
Intensity -
Center position N14°10'(14.2°)
E123°30'(123.5°)
Direction and speed of movement W 15km/h(7kt)
Central pressure 996hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 20m/s(40kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 30m/s(60kt)
Area of 30kt winds or more Wide 280km(150NM)

<Forecast for 26/18 UTC>
Intensity -
Center position of probability circle N14°40'(14.7°)
E122°20'(122.3°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 10km/h(6kt)
Central pressure 996hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 20m/s(40kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 30m/s(60kt)
Radius of probability circle 90km(50NM)

<Forecast for 27/06 UTC>
Intensity -
Center position of probability circle N15°55'(15.9°)
E121°10'(121.2°)
Direction and speed of movement NW 15km/h(8kt)
Central pressure 996hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 20m/s(40kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 30m/s(60kt)
Radius of probability circle 130km(70NM)

<Forecast for 28/06 UTC>
Intensity -
Center position of probability circle N17°40'(17.7°)
E117°00'(117.0°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 20km/h(10kt)
Central pressure 985hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 25m/s(50kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 35m/s(70kt)
Radius of probability circle 200km(110NM)

<Forecast for 29/06 UTC>
Intensity -
Center position of probability circle N19°00'(19.0°)
E113°10'(113.2°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 20km/h(10kt)
Central pressure 980hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 30m/s(55kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 40m/s(80kt)
Radius of probability circle 300km(160NM)
Storm warning area Wide 370km(200NM)
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#116 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:11 am

LOoks like the JMA have thus far done the best job with this system clocking the further west track before the other agencies which were hugging the eastward suite of the models...

Looks like a good call from the GFS.
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Re: WPAC: NOCK-TEN - Tropical Storm

#117 Postby climateconcern23 » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:17 am

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#118 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:17 am

Looks like the center is just north of land at the moment, its got giood curvature though so not sure how much weakening the land will actually cause.
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Re: WPAC: NOCK-TEN - Tropical Storm

#119 Postby ManilaTC » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:25 am

KWT wrote:Looks like the center is just north of land at the moment, its got giood curvature though so not sure how much weakening the land will actually cause.


That area is an hotbed for tropical intensification as exhibited by previous storms passing that area.

Example: Bebinca in 2005.
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#120 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:30 am

Yeah the track is actually quite close ro Bebinca as well looking at the past track.

Wonder how much rain has actually fallen?
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