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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#861 Postby crimi481 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:35 pm

Wonder how all the inland -mid south "low's" - sinking south towards n. Gulf coast will interact with the Invest system?
Click link -then on top page click on -"fronts". Look how many "low's" are near N. Gulf coast??
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/flash-bd.html
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#862 Postby KatDaddy » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:35 pm

I too am not yet sold on MX however the ridge is forecast move W the rest of the week bring the 100s and higher back to Houston.
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#863 Postby BigB0882 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:40 pm

I heard Houston hit 100+ today. Crazy, it was only mid 80's in Baton Rouge but I guess the rains kept us cool. When I heard that I knew that no storms were coming this way and unless that heat retreats East, we should be shielded. I know many people need rain but IMBY we have gotten plenty and I am enjoying the cooler weather. I actually need it to stop raining so we can cut our grass. (ducking and running...)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#864 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:41 pm

Surely,warm sst's await whatever this system becomes.

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#865 Postby jasons2k » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:41 pm

I wouldn't be sold on MX either. For one, there is not a defined LLC. Second, the Euro did show it moving right of the BAMM suite (it looked more aimed at the Corpus area). NAM was further north too. Third, storms in the Gulf tend to track to the right a bit, esp. if they are stronger. I think northern Mexico to the TX/LA border should keep a very close watch on this system - it's still very early with many many variables still TBD.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#866 Postby South Texas Storms » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:43 pm

:uarrow: Yep that can only help this system.
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#867 Postby KatDaddy » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:44 pm

We have in the upper 90s to 100s for the last 2 months. It was 99F at IAH on the hourly postings so I am sure we hit 100F.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#868 Postby South Texas Storms » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:45 pm

When will the 0z GFDL and HWRF models come out?
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#869 Postby HurricaneBrain » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:46 pm

jasons wrote:I wouldn't be sold on MX either. For one, there is not a defined LLC. Second, the Euro did show it moving right of the BAMM suite (it looked more aimed at the Corpus area). NAM was further north too. Third, storms in the Gulf tend to track to the right a bit, esp. if they are stronger. I think northern Mexico to the TX/LA border should keep a very close watch on this system - it's still very early with many many variables still TBD.

GFS shows a TX/LA storm.
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#870 Postby South Texas Storms » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:48 pm

jasons wrote:I wouldn't be sold on MX either. For one, there is not a defined LLC. Second, the Euro did show it moving right of the BAMM suite (it looked more aimed at the Corpus area). NAM was further north too. Third, storms in the Gulf tend to track to the right a bit, esp. if they are stronger. I think northern Mexico to the TX/LA border should keep a very close watch on this system - it's still very early with many many variables still TBD.



I agree with you jasons. I think you nailed it spot on.
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#871 Postby Rgv20 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:53 pm

jasons wrote:I wouldn't be sold on MX either. For one, there is not a defined LLC. Second, the Euro did show it moving right of the BAMM suite (it looked more aimed at the Corpus area). NAM was further north too. Third, storms in the Gulf tend to track to the right a bit, esp. if they are stronger. I think northern Mexico to the TX/LA border should keep a very close watch on this system - it's still very early with many many variables still TBD.


Yeap 12zEuro has the 850 vorticity moving to corpus and the 500mb vorticity to 24n. Looking at the model data it looks like the stronger 90l gets the more likely it goes to Mexico.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#872 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:54 pm

The heat content is also warming at a good pace.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#873 Postby Macrocane » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:54 pm

Shear always wins over SST, if the shear is strong in the Gulf the system won't amount to much at all in terms of organization although according to the models it will be low in about 4 or 5 days, won't it?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#874 Postby South Texas Storms » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:56 pm

Rgv please define stronger. Would a tropical storm or weaker come to TX and a hurricane to MX?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#875 Postby HurricaneBrain » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:56 pm

Macrocane wrote:Shear always wins over SST, if the shear is strong in the Gulf the system won't amount to much at all in terms of organization although according to the models it will be low in about 4 or 5 days, won't it?

Shear should lessen a good amount tomorrow and there on according to models.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#876 Postby South Texas Storms » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:58 pm

I think 90L is sitting in the warmest waters of the Atlantic right now. That is certainly helping it organize some imo.
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#877 Postby perk » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:58 pm

KatDaddy wrote:I too am not yet sold on MX however the ridge is forecast move W the rest of the week bring the 100s and higher back to Houston.



KatDaddy i'm not sold on the Mexico solution either, a few days ago wxman57 mentioned a scenario my which the ridge moved east and might allow this system to gain some latitude a little further up the Texas coast.
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#878 Postby Tireman4 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:00 pm

perk wrote:
KatDaddy wrote:I too am not yet sold on MX however the ridge is forecast move W the rest of the week bring the 100s and higher back to Houston.



KatDaddy i'm not sold on the Mexico solution either, a few days ago wxman57 mentioned a scenario my which the ridge moved east and might allow this system to gain some latitude a little further up the Texas coast.


Yeah Perk and KatDaddy, I am not sold either. I am feeling what Wxman 57 stated too. Something we have to watch from Tuesday on.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#879 Postby Rgv20 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:01 pm

Macrocane wrote:Shear always wins over SST, if the shear is strong in the Gulf the system won't amount to much at all in terms of organization although according to the models it will be low in about 4 or 5 days, won't it?


Yeah it looks like thru 84hrs possibly beyond its going to be in an environment of low shear. I do not know why so many posters think their is going to be high shear in the gulf?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#880 Postby Rgv20 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:05 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:Rgv please define stronger. Would a tropical storm or weaker come to TX and a hurricane to MX?


Tropical storm or weaker=higher threat to the Texas coastline.
Hurricane=more of a North Eastern Mexico threat.

Just my own opinion base on what I see on the models.
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