Gulf Disturbance Week of June 27th (Is invest 95L)

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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#301 Postby srainhoutx » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:49 am

The 00Z Euro Ensembles are further N... :wink:
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#302 Postby tailgater » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:52 am

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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#303 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:57 am

Yep, models shifting southward and weaker. I'm thinking Bret of 2005 vs. Arlene of 2005 as far as a track.
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#304 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:02 am

wxman57 wrote:Yep, models shifting southward and weaker. I'm thinking Bret of 2005 vs. Arlene of 2005 as far as a track.


You meant Tropical Storm Gert right?

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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#305 Postby GCANE » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:24 am

I am not putting a lot of stock in the models at the moment as far as genesis location.

In fact, latest FIM is a outlier with genesis farther north.

Spin up is going to be dependent on how convection evolves over the Yucatan and moves out into the BOC.

Given the random nature of surface heating and MCS development this is relatively unpredictable.
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#306 Postby srainhoutx » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:30 am

HPC morning update re: the Upper Ridge:

OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS...THE STRENGTH OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE
OVER THE SOUTHERN PLAINS HAS BEEN SLOWLY WEAKENING WITHIN THE
FORECAST GUIDANCE...MOST DRAMATICALLY WITHIN THE ECMWF SOLUTION.

STILL...HIGHS BETWEEN 100 AND 110 ARE EXPECTED ACROSS INTERIOR
PORTIONS OF TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA THROUGH THE PERIOD.
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#307 Postby Dean4Storms » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:55 am

GCANE wrote:I am not putting a lot of stock in the models at the moment as far as genesis location.

In fact, latest FIM is a outlier with genesis farther north.

Spin up is going to be dependent on how convection evolves over the Yucatan and moves out into the BOC.

Given the random nature of surface heating and MCS development this is relatively unpredictable.



Very true, cyclogenesis developing 100 miles further east in the Carib. or north vs south could make all the difference in the overall track down the road, not to mention the depth of the system!
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#308 Postby KWT » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:44 am

wxman57 wrote:Yep, models shifting southward and weaker. I'm thinking Bret of 2005 vs. Arlene of 2005 as far as a track.


Yeah I think if we do get anything it'll be one of those quick fire TD/TS systems that try and wrap up before landfall, these tend to end up being almost 50-50 as to whether they make it before landfall...

Will have to see!
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#309 Postby Frank2 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:05 am

GFS shows a system that opens as it moves towards the coast:

http://weather.unisys.com/gfsx/gfsx.php ... ion=us&t=l

other than that, a general lack of high pressure over the eastern US is forecast during the next week or more - somewhat unusual for late June/early July...
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#310 Postby dwsqos2 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:37 am

I guess no one wants to talk about the 12Z gfs. It's okay; it depressed me as well.
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#311 Postby Javlin » Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:43 am

dwsqos2 wrote:I guess no one wants to talk about the 12Z gfs. It's okay; it depressed me as well.



Why? Did it dry up and blow away :)
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#312 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:14 pm

GFS 12Z

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7 days ... very far south
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#313 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:25 pm

The southward trend in the models makes me very sad. I was really hoping and starting to get excited about a weak tropical storm arlene moving across south texas and putting a huge dent in our drought. Now it seems unlikely. :(
Is there any reason I should keep my hopes up for some very beneficial rains from this system?
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#314 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:48 pm

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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#315 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:44 pm

12z NOGAPS does not develop at all

I think we may have to wait for another time to see the first storm of the season.
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#316 Postby srainhoutx » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:53 pm

So much for that slowing down idea near the Yucatan over the weekend. The good news is the potential rainfall for S TX and NE Mexico. HPC afternoon Update:

RAINFALL MAGNITUDE/CHANCES ACROSS SOUTHERN TEXAS REMAIN A QUESTION
MARK MID TO LATE NEXT WEEK...DEPENDENT UPON DEVELOPMENTS IN THE
WESTERN CARIBBEAN/SOUTHERN GULF OF MEXICO. WHILE THERE HAS BEEN A
SOUTHERLY TREND IN THE DETERMINISTIC GFS/CANADIAN
GUIDANCE...ENOUGH 00Z ENSEMBLE MEMBERS /NEARLY ONE-QUARTER OR 20
OF THE 90/ MOVE THE LOW INTO SOUTHERN TEXAS LATE IN THE PERIOD SO
A TEXAS LANDFALL SCENARIO CANNOT BE RULED OUT. THE 17Z
COORDINATION CALL WITH NHC SPED THIS SYSTEM UP SOMEWHAT FROM
YESTERDAY AND KEPT THIS SYSTEM MOVING FAR ENOUGH TO THE SOUTH THAT
SCATTERED SHOWERS/THUNDERSTORMS REMAIN POSSIBLE IN SOUTHERN TEXAS
LATE NEXT WEEK.

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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#317 Postby Sanibel » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:04 pm

Wave axis may be too far south. Flared-up more than I expected today.
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#318 Postby plasticup » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:24 pm

The wave axis is where it has always been. It's the unexpectedly strong ridge over Florida and into the plains that is preventing a northward drift into the Gulf.
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#319 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:30 pm

Sanibel wrote:Wave axis may be too far south. Flared-up more than I expected today.



Yeah it did flare up pretty nicely today. It looks like it is currently moving WNW-NW on satellite imagery. I would love to have those tropical downpours all across Texas.
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#320 Postby Javlin » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:51 pm

Well the season is young and the way this high pressure has parked itself I am beginning to think S.Carolina to Mexico is going to be under the gun.I just wish this high back it's you know what up and give us some rain :roll:
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