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GFS develops early EPAC system

#1 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:17 pm

Early start for EPAC?

Only 144 hours out..ends up in the Caribbean

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Re: GFS develops early EPAC system

#2 Postby cycloneye » Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:32 pm

GFS has showed this for a while as I posted seven days ago at the Global Model Runs thread about GFS showing a crossover from EPAC to Caribbean.

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cycloneye   Post subject: Re: Global Model RunsPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:23 pm 
 
 
  A crossover disturbance from EPAC to Caribbean? Look closely at the 4/7/11 12z loop from GFS.

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Re: GFS develops early EPAC system

#3 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:45 pm

I remember Luis. Now we are in within 144 hours which makes this very interesting.

18z GFS develops it into a strong system

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Again ends up in the Caribbean..

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Re: GFS develops early EPAC system

#4 Postby cycloneye » Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:52 pm

Michael,if this becomes into a real thing,remember me as I will be down there on a cruise West of Central America and Mexico by that time. :double:
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Re: GFS develops early EPAC system

#5 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:59 pm

cycloneye wrote:Michael,if this becomes into a real thing,remember me as I will be down there on a cruise by that time. :double:


The consistency is alarming Luis. I know you have a close eye on this one!
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Re: GFS develops early EPAC system

#6 Postby Vortex » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:01 pm

It certainly has begun to grab my attention now...If the consistancy of the GFS continues run to run and other Globals begin jumping on board this may be the real deal...The crossover would be something else for late April....
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Re: GFS develops early EPAC system

#7 Postby cycloneye » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:16 pm

Will this area be the one that gives birth to what GFS is showing?

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Re: GFS develops early EPAC system

#8 Postby cycloneye » Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:21 am

Only a small pink dot,but will it get bigger with time?

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#9 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:56 am

Development of a tropical cyclone in April in the Eastern Pacific will really be something historic. GFS tends to have a higher than average ghost cyclones at the beginning and end of the hurricane season, so I'm hesitant to throw my hat in the ring based on GFS history and climatology.
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Re: GFS develops early EPAC system

#10 Postby cycloneye » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:03 am

An excerpt from this mornings discussion:

A 1010 MB AREA OF LOW PRES IS EMBEDDED WITHIN
THE ITCZ NEAR 05N91W. THE CLOUD FIELD SHOWS SOME CYCLONIC
TURNING AND EARLIER ASCAT PASSES INDICATED A BROAD CYCLONIC
CIRCULATION. CONVECTION ASSOCIATED WITH THIS LOW IS AS DESCRIBED
IN THE ITCZ SECTION ABOVE. COMPUTER MODELS SHOW THIS SYSTEM
PERSISTING OVER THIS REGION WHILE NOT MOVING MUCH DURING THE
NEXT SEVERAL DAYS.


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MI ... 0945.shtml?
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Re: GFS develops early EPAC system

#11 Postby tolakram » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:23 am

Starting to see the circulation:

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#12 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:31 am

Loop: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/epac/flash-rgb.html

The spin is also visible in the loop above
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Re: GFS develops early EPAC system

#13 Postby tolakram » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:11 am

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In my opinion it's too close to the equator and higher shear is just to the north, so something to watch but not much of a chance.

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Re: GFS develops early EPAC system

#14 Postby TexasStorm » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:09 am

That is a very impressive storm for Mid April. Guess we will find out soon if the GFS is smoke and mirrors this season or the real deal. If a storm that size does develop, it should have no problem making the crossover intact. Now if it can survive after the crossover I am not as certain.
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Re: GFS develops early EPAC system

#15 Postby cycloneye » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:31 am

Ding-dong,ding-dong wow! What a discussion this afternoon about this.

A PERSISTENT AREA OF DEEP CONVECTION IS ASSOCIATED WITH A WEAK
LOW PRES NEAR 04N91W. VIS SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS FAIR AMOUNT OF
LOW LEVEL CONVERGENCE INTO THE LOW AND EVIDENCE OF SOME CYCLONIC
TURNING IN THE ANIMATED IMAGERY. INTRUSION OF DRY MID-LEVEL AIR
FROM THE NORTH OVERNIGHT HAS HELPED SUPPRESS MUCH OF THE STRONG
CONVECTION FROM EARLIER THIS MORNING...BUT THE FACT THAT TSTMS
REMAIN PERSISTENT NEAR THE LOW IN SPITE OF SEVERAL INHIBITING
FACTORS INDICATES THIS OFF-SEASON AREA OF LOW PRESSURE MAY BEAR
WATCHING OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. GFS AND ECMWF MODELS KEEP
THE CIRCULATION VIABLE FOR SEVERAL DAYS ALTHOUGH ONLY AT 15-20 KT
BUT THIS IS THE FIRST SIGN OF LIFE FOR THE TROPICAL E PACIFIC SO
FAR IN 2011. EXPECT THE LOW TO DRIFT WNW THE NEXT 5-7 DAYS WITH
LITTLE CHANGE IN INTENSITY THROUGH THE WEEKEND.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MI ... 0945.shtml
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Re: GFS develops early EPAC system

#16 Postby tolakram » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:46 am

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Re: GFS develops early EPAC system

#17 Postby srainhoutx » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:57 am

The 12Z GFS suggests out to sea with this weak disturbance.
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Re: GFS develops early EPAC system

#18 Postby wxman57 » Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:39 pm

Another bogus development forecast. We'll see more and more of these in the weeks to come.
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Re: GFS develops early EPAC system

#19 Postby srainhoutx » Mon May 09, 2011 1:32 pm

12Z GFS suggesting tropical activity beyond the 15th. With season starting Sunday, perhaps Adrian may not be too far in the distance.
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Re: GFS develops early EPAC system

#20 Postby GCANE » Mon May 16, 2011 6:58 am

Just south of 10N and around 85W.

Lots of convection firing and a good LL Vorticity with low shear.

GFS spinning up into a deep warm core end of the week.


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