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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8501 Postby vbhoutex » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:27 pm

Definitely getting very light snow flurries at my location in W Houston(Spring Branch area) Temperature has dropped 3 degrees to 26.6f in the last half hour.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8502 Postby hunkerdown » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:30 pm

Where in Spring Branch??

I'm at Westview and Silber.

And I'm now sitting on my back porch hoping.
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#8503 Postby txagwxman » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:34 pm

Yea got some here in Tomball/Spring...

Wow 25.9F here.
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#8504 Postby jerryh421 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:35 pm

Light snow flurries Montgomery.
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#8505 Postby txagwxman » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:35 pm

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Tireman4 wrote:Txagwxman,

Eyewitness reports snow in Cypress right now (Grant/Jones).

How can this be? I thought the air column above the clouds was well above freezing?


We've had snowflakes here in Bellville too, but I didn't want to say anything, I was afraid I was seeing things :cheesy:

You aren't...I guess -8C at 925 mb can do it.
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#8506 Postby txagwxman » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:43 pm

We are about to clear out in NW Houston soon...what 18-19F tonight Hooks!
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#8507 Postby vbhoutex » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:48 pm

hunkerdown wrote:Where in Spring Branch??

I'm at Westview and Silber.

And I'm now sitting on my back porch hoping.

Hammerly and Gessner area-Spring Shadows. Now down to 25.9F and still falling. I'm beginning to think they are going to have to lower the temps for tonight unless we don't clear like expected.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8508 Postby TwisterFanatic » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:56 pm

I shared these in the other thread, so I thought I would share them here also.



My Brothers house. (26 inches)

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My house (17.5 inches)

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My deck

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#8509 Postby southerngale » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:03 pm

Great pics, TwisterFanatic! And I would have been happy just to get an inch or two this winter. lol
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#8510 Postby southerngale » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:10 pm

BPT reporting light snow!

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33° and light rain here. :roll:
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#8511 Postby txagwxman » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:12 pm

southerngale wrote:BPT reporting light snow!

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33° and light rain here. :roll:

Bad ob...ain't snowing there.
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#8512 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:12 pm

Hey just thought I'd say, I know were still in winter weather mode here in Texas, but with the weather expected to turn warmer this weekend it seems like severe season isnt too far off now. So Ive started a texas severe thread over in the USA forum for when the opportunity calls. Any speculation, questions, info etc for the upcoming season is welcomed.
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#8513 Postby southerngale » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:18 pm

txagwxman wrote:Bad ob...ain't snowing there.


Yeah. I just talked to someone directly across the street from the airport and they said they couldn't see any. They said they thought they saw light flurries about an hour ago, though.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8514 Postby Tejas89 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:26 pm

Well, aside from a March snowdump, which is not unprecedented in DFW, maybe we can all return to being productive members of society. Thanks to everyone. I am continually grateful for the education and information provided over here.
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#8515 Postby BigB0882 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:26 pm

Last week weather.com listed Baton Rouge as having a snow shower and it most certainly was not snowing. I never heard of a single person seeing a flake during the day so sometimes they just get it wrong.
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#8516 Postby somethingfunny » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:37 pm

Despite the record cold temps forecasted tonight, as I look around at the melting and drying ice I can"t help but hear "taps" playing in my head. Who knows when we'll see another shot at snow? Next winter is supposed to be cold....well, this winter was supposed to have more Fire Weather Warnings than Winter Storm Warnings. It is as it always has been - a crapshoot. Maybe I'll. Drive up to Fayetteville this weekend for one last chance to build a snow fort. Or maybe I'll just drive down to Galveston and enjoy the blowtorch. :)

It's about time for the debriefing on this event, isn't it? It looks like the models were spot on with the QPF and we just refused to believe it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8517 Postby Tejas89 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:47 pm

It's about time for the debriefing on this event, isn't it? It looks like the models were spot on with the QPF and we just refused to believe it.


It seemed the models were trending north to OK late in the game, as well as the NWS. All in all most predictions had 1-3" or 2-4" at the most for DFW prior to the event. We got the 1" so it wasn't necessarily a busted forecast by the pros. Just my $.02. To me, a bust would be a cold night in 1986 when even the great Harold Taft called for 4". We all prepared for a snow day only to wake up to sunshine and the school bus. Lots of those real busts over the years, but forecasting seems so much better nowadays.
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#8518 Postby orangeblood » Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:01 pm

somethingfunny wrote:Despite the record cold temps forecasted tonight, as I look around at the melting and drying ice I can"t help but hear "taps" playing in my head. Who knows when we'll see another shot at snow? Next winter is supposed to be cold....well, this winter was supposed to have more Fire Weather Warnings than Winter Storm Warnings. It is as it always has been - a crapshoot. Maybe I'll. Drive up to Fayetteville this weekend for one last chance to build a snow fort. Or maybe I'll just drive down to Galveston and enjoy the blowtorch. :)

It's about time for the debriefing on this event, isn't it? It looks like the models were spot on with the QPF and we just refused to believe it.


Regarding the models, it was actually quite the opposite. Most of us were buying into the models, which all were predicting at least greater than 0.25 inches of precip across the metroplex , and most were even predicting at least 0.40 inches. But they didn't even come close to verifying: For example, DFW GFS forecast last night- 0.41 inches, actual was 0.15 inches. Huge bust all the way around!!!

One of the lessons I learned from this event: For example, say you have a certain amount of precip forecast for a location. Most of us on here were thinking that a faster cold front would mean more of that precip becoming frozen. But it never crossed my mind that a faster cold front could mean that the mid and upper levels could dry out faster than forecast and would then cut into the QPF. And that is exactly what happened.

So many factors have to come together in order to get winter weather in Texas and the timing of those factors have to be almost perfect. That's is why I think that winter weather forecasting in Texas is one of the toughest jobs in the country and we were really fortunate to have the winter that we had.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#8519 Postby jasons2k » Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:22 pm

Geez, it's cold! I was concerned about all of this (colder temps) when I saw negative readings in the Panhandle late yesterday. This could be the coldest night for me yet, even colder than last year's 19F at this rate.

And I thought after surviving last week this week was going to be easy - yikes!

I was out about an hour ago doing final preps and there were still a few flurries flying around, but it was light. Slowly clearing out here now.
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#8520 Postby vbhoutex » Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:31 pm

orangeblood wrote:
somethingfunny wrote:Despite the record cold temps forecasted tonight, as I look around at the melting and drying ice I can"t help but hear "taps" playing in my head. Who knows when we'll see another shot at snow? Next winter is supposed to be cold....well, this winter was supposed to have more Fire Weather Warnings than Winter Storm Warnings. It is as it always has been - a crapshoot. Maybe I'll. Drive up to Fayetteville this weekend for one last chance to build a snow fort. Or maybe I'll just drive down to Galveston and enjoy the blowtorch. :)

It's about time for the debriefing on this event, isn't it? It looks like the models were spot on with the QPF and we just refused to believe it.


Regarding the models, it was actually quite the opposite. Most of us were buying into the models, which all were predicting at least greater than 0.25 inches of precip across the metroplex , and most were even predicting at least 0.40 inches. But they didn't even come close to verifying: For example, DFW GFS forecast last night- 0.41 inches, actual was 0.15 inches. Huge bust all the way around!!!

One of the lessons I learned from this event: For example, say you have a certain amount of precip forecast for a location. Most of us on here were thinking that a faster cold front would mean more of that precip becoming frozen. But it never crossed my mind that a faster cold front could mean that the mid and upper levels could dry out faster than forecast and would then cut into the QPF. And that is exactly what happened.

So many factors have to come together in order to get winter weather in Texas and the timing of those factors have to be almost perfect. That's is why I think that winter weather forecasting in Texas is one of the toughest jobs in the country and we were really fortunate to have the winter that we had.

I couldn't have said it better if I had a battery of script writers!! I do not envy the forecasters in TX when it comes to having to deal with Winter weather forecasts!!
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