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Re: Winter 2010-11 for the Southern Plains

#581 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:47 pm

Well, overall for the NAM is less of a closed low to bring back precip except for northern Oklahoma in the cold air. Other than that, plenty of beneficial rain.
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Re: Winter 2010-11 for the Southern Plains

#582 Postby iorange55 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:50 pm

Ntxw wrote:Well, overall for the NAM is less of a closed low to bring back precip except for northern Oklahoma in the cold air. Other than that, plenty of beneficial rain.



Yeah not much of any wrap around. We'll see what the other models bring. The rain is good either way though. Maybe the snow will come the next week.
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Re: Winter 2010-11 for the Southern Plains

#583 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:52 pm

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Ntxw wrote:Well, overall for the NAM is less of a closed low to bring back precip except for northern Oklahoma in the cold air. Other than that, plenty of beneficial rain.



Yeah not much of any wrap around. We'll see what the other models bring. The rain is good either way though. Maybe the snow will come the next week.


It is the NAM though. Anything beyond 48 hours on it is equivalent to the second half of the GFS lol. I would like for this thing to go a bit further south so that S/E Texas gets decent thunderstorms, they need it most.
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#584 Postby TwisterFanatic » Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:53 pm

On the NAM the rain/snow line is right on me starting at 66 hours. :D
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Re: Winter 2010-11 for the Southern Plains

#585 Postby srainhoutx » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:05 pm

Remember folks. The NAM is a mesoscale model. We're looking at ‘hints’ for the OP guidance. For the Southern Plains, this is a big step toward the 12Z Euro. Let's see what all this guidance spins out tonight. This is a volatile time frame in model world, IMO. :wink:
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Re: Winter 2010-11 for the Southern Plains

#586 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:08 pm

srainhoutx wrote:Remember folks. The NAM is a mesoscale model. We're looking at ‘hints’ for the OP guidance. For the Southern Plains, this is a big step toward the 12Z Euro. Let's see what all this guidance spins out tonight. This is a volatile time frame in model world, IMO. :wink:


Don't get us excited srain! We're gonna hold you hostage for all this pattern change harp until you give to us! I love it!

GFS is initializing, here's to either early sleep, or late night joy! It's digging to SoCal/Baja as the beginning of NAM did.
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Re: Winter 2010-11 for the Southern Plains

#587 Postby HockeyTx82 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:46 pm

Ntxw wrote:
srainhoutx wrote:Remember folks. The NAM is a mesoscale model. We're looking at ‘hints’ for the OP guidance. For the Southern Plains, this is a big step toward the 12Z Euro. Let's see what all this guidance spins out tonight. This is a volatile time frame in model world, IMO. :wink:


Don't get us excited srain! We're gonna hold you hostage for all this pattern change harp until you give to us! I love it!

GFS is initializing, here's to either early sleep, or late night joy! It's digging to SoCal/Baja as the beginning of NAM did.


So are you talking about Christmas Day? Or further out. I seem to think there are two possible storms you all are talking about and I want to make sure I understand what is going on. Snow? Rain? What's the trends for NTX? Sorry if I seem like I am confused, truth is I am. :oops:
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#588 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:06 pm

I don't blame you hockey, lots of things to talk about beyond Christmas, but really right now everyone is zeroing in on this weekend. No snow tonight via NAM and GFS for ntx but plenty of chill and rain.
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#589 Postby srainhoutx » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:12 pm

Ntxw wrote:I don't blame you hockey, lots of things to talk about beyond Christmas, but really right now everyone is zeroing in on this weekend. No snow tonight via NAM and GFS for ntx but plenty of chill and rain.



The GFS is trending toward a consensus tonight, so far. :wink: We'll see what the other globals suggest as the night wears on.
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#590 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:14 pm

All hopes on the Euro! I do agree with you srain. The trend has been and continues to be to the EC. Picking specifics is usually fatal at this range.
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Re: Winter 2010-11 for the Southern Plains

#591 Postby Ntxw » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:06 am

The model consensus seems to fairly agree with the GFS, Canadian, NAM, UKMET looking very similar with a slightly less impressive storm than some of them have shown prior, and doesn't phase in time for our friends to the east. I would be surprised if the Euro doesn't start trending that way also as it would be the outlier otherwise.

Update: EC isn't giving us snow (but it is for a brief time in Oklahoma and NW Texas possibly, along with KS and MO).
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Re: Winter 2010-11 for the Southern Plains

#592 Postby srainhoutx » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:46 am

Not to get too far ahead of ourselves, but did anyone notice the 00Z Euro in the meduim range (240 hour)? :wink:
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Re: Winter 2010-11 for the Southern Plains

#593 Postby Ntxw » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:49 am

srainhoutx wrote:Not to get too far ahead of ourselves, but did anyone notice the 00Z Euro in the meduim range (240 hour)? :wink:


It's too good to be true! :wink:
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Re: Winter 2010-11 for the Southern Plains

#594 Postby Portastorm » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:51 am

Ntxw wrote:
srainhoutx wrote:Not to get too far ahead of ourselves, but did anyone notice the 00Z Euro in the meduim range (240 hour)? :wink:


It's too good to be true! :wink:


Polar front + upper level disturbance to our southwest = Texas winter fun! :cheesy:
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#595 Postby Ntxw » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:56 am

I think we should do a ceremonial human sacrifice to La Nada for that set up. Hmm but who to pick...any volunteers *cough srain cough*?

Rain!

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Re: Winter 2010-11 for the Southern Plains

#596 Postby djmikey » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:00 am

Portastorm wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
srainhoutx wrote:Not to get too far ahead of ourselves, but did anyone notice the 00Z Euro in the meduim range (240 hour)? :wink:


It's too good to be true! :wink:


Polar front + upper level disturbance to our southwest = Texas winter fun! :cheesy:


Can you provide a link? I am unable to pull this up at work. Thanks!
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Re: Winter 2010-11 for the Southern Plains

#597 Postby Kelarie » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:03 am

That map is too good to be true, it has to be doctored. But the colours were sure pretty :eek: :lol:
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Re: Winter 2010-11 for the Southern Plains

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Re: Winter 2010-11 for the Southern Plains

#599 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:06 am

Euro suggests a South/Central Texas Snow Miracle?????

Or does Lucy go Romo again?
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#600 Postby wx247 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:06 am

12z NAM is colder. :cold:
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