ATL: MATTHEW - Ex-Tropical Storm - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1041 Postby tailgater » Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:01 pm

Matt will probably be inland for a very a short time as these not well defined centers will spin up easier over the low fiction over water. that is until Belize.
This system will very interesting, but I'll go with a path that takes it over the Yucatan for a day or 2 then back to a westward motion into Mexico again before it can get pulled northward by the next trough. I don't see Nicole forming, maybe a lot of moisture getting shutted NEward.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1042 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:08 pm

cycloneye wrote::uarrow: And what is that South of Hispanola, future Nicole?


Moisture from Matthew interacting with the ULL near Hispaniola
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#1043 Postby Frank2 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:11 pm

The current WV loop shows the possible Gulf cold front mentioned earlier in the week tilting SE to become a stationary front over OK - the stationary front (instead of a Gulf cold front affecting Matthew) was one of the scenarios mentioned by TWC on Wednesday:

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huwvloop.html
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#1044 Postby Vortmax1 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:11 pm

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#1045 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:14 pm

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#1046 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:16 pm

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#1047 Postby Ntxw » Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:17 pm

Frank2 wrote:The current WV loop shows the possible Gulf cold front mentioned earlier in the week tilting SE to become a stationary front over OK - the stationary front (instead of a Gulf cold front affecting Matthew) was one of the scenarios mentioned by TWC on Wednesday:

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huwvloop.html


That isn't the trough and possible cutoff system. The one aforementioned comes with another surge behind this one over the weekend, a secondary cold front. Matthew seems to have moved too quickly to time itself with that trough as people have thought.
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#1048 Postby GCANE » Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:26 pm

chaser1 wrote:
Wow...., after looking at the loop of the Dynamic Tropopause, I'm almost back to thinking that whatever "might" redevelop near Yucatan, might actually more aptly stilll "be" Matthew, all the while Nicole forming from an altogether unique wave farther east ( Central Caribb. )



The outflow of Matthew is generating shear-induced MCS's south of the TUTT over Hispaniola.

Diabatic or Latent heating could create an anti-cyclone in the next day or two.

The updraft of that (PV-lens in the paper, or a tropopause height anamoly) could in turn generate a surface low, espcially if the TUTT dissipates.


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#1049 Postby plasticup » Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:32 pm

This is going to suck for Honduras.

MATTHEW IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE TOTAL RAIN ACCUMULATIONS
OF 6 TO 10 INCHES OVER PORTIONS OF NICARAGUA AND HONDURAS...WITH
ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 15 INCHES POSSIBLE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE
OF DAYS.

Given Honduras's saturation from recent rainfall the floods will likely be cataclysmic.
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#1050 Postby ospreygrad » Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:42 pm

Looking at the latest WV imagery, you can see the next shortwave diving SE down out of Western Canada through Montana and approaching the Northern Plains. This will be the "kicker" to carve out a more deeper trough over the Eastern CONUS by early next week and influence the steering of whatever comes out of the NW Caribbean.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1051 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:47 pm

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#1052 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:52 pm

AL, 15, 2010092418, , BEST, 0, 146N, 830W, 45, 998, TS

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1053 Postby tailgater » Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:57 pm

Anybody else see the elongation of Matt on visible.
Put this one in motion.
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I could be wrong but it sure doesn't look like the center the recon found last is intact.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1054 Postby GCANE » Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:00 pm

Outflow is looking more and more impressive.

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#1055 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:10 pm

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#1056 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:34 pm

any chance at a center relocation by Matt as the storm system gets disrupted over land?
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#1057 Postby Shuriken » Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:42 pm

The NHC 11am forecast for remnant low dissipation over the central Yucatan seems tough to swallow given the time of year and the already large circulation envelope. If surface northerlies develop in the BOC, it'll persist.
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#1058 Postby Vortmax1 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:52 pm

any chance at a center relocation by Matt as the storm system gets disrupted over land?


There's a thread on that in Talkin Tropics:


viewtopic.php?f=31&t=109519
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#1059 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:52 pm

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Very intense convection
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#1060 Postby Vortmax1 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:54 pm

Wow Hurakan!
I haven't seen a look like that in a while.
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