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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#221 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:59 pm

wxman57 wrote:Reminds me a lot of Wilma ('05), Mitch ('98) or even Keith ('00). Possibly most of Wilma. With a deepening trof to the north by late in the weekend, there won't be much to push the storm westward. It may sit for a few days in the NW Caribbean waiting to be picked up and carried off to the north and quite likely the NNE-NE toward Florida.

For now, I see the threat as being east of 90W - the northeast Gulf - rather than the northwest Gulf behind the cold front. Can't rule out a track westward across the Yucatan to Mexico (Keith 2000) if the disturbance moves much faster than forecast.


Yeah its looking very Wilma-esque, though I'm banking on the models to change as its still fairly far out.....
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#222 Postby Florida1118 » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:01 pm

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Of All Hurricanes to Affect W. FL, most all came from the C or W Caribbean. This is all TCs from Sept.-Nov.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#223 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:02 pm

Florida1118 wrote:[IMG=http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/4671/septtonov.png][/IMG]

Of All Hurricanes to Affect W. FL, most all came from the C or W Caribbean. This is all TCs from Sept.-Nov.


That is correct, South Florida's month for hurricanes is October actually as most hurricanes have made landfall in this month than any other month, though September is the month where most major hurricanes have made landfall.

Looks like if this impacts us, would be still in September.
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#224 Postby Vortex » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:04 pm

Also, the 18Z GFS Ensembles keep it just NE of Honduras without a landfall then N towards Cuba/FL...That would be a worst case scenario as this system would likely become very powerful...


18Z GFS ensemble H120

http://raleighwx.easternuswx.com/models ... cal120.gif
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#225 Postby GTStorm » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:05 pm

Topic has been up 12 hours and already 12 pages worth of posts.

Compare that to our recurves for indication of what drives interest on this board whether folks want to admit it or not.
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#226 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:05 pm

Vortex wrote:18Z GFS Ensemble H192 SW FL




http://raleighwx.easternuswx.com/models ... cal192.gif


Vortex, I did not need to see this. I've seen this movie before and it was called Charlie. We still have very warm SSTs and that does provide room for rapid strengthening should it hit that gasoline while moving north. :eek:

Nothing against my friends in CA but we really don't need this one...
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#227 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:07 pm

Increasingly looking like a Florida future landfall with the pattern seen coming. Let's hope vertical shear is disruptive as it comes northward or I guess there is a possibility of dry air getting entrained.
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#228 Postby Vortex » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:07 pm

The 18Z ensembles are well right of the operational and faster more in line with the Nogaps and a tad slower than the Euro.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#229 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:08 pm

GTStorm wrote:Topic has been up 12 hours and already 12 pages worth of posts.

Compare that to our recurves for indication of what drives interest on this board whether folks want to admit it or not.


A lot of us remember 04-05....that's why. And this storm if it doesn't fizzle is going to hit someone.
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#230 Postby Blown Away » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:12 pm

Vortex wrote:18Z GFS Ensemble H192 SW FL
http://raleighwx.easternuswx.com/models ... cal192.gif


Looking at that Bermuda High it seems the system would move more N than NE as it approaches SFL.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#231 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:18 pm

Lets only discuss about the model runs here and reserve the main discussions about the systems future in terms of being favorable or not for the 95L discussion thread. :)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#232 Postby Blown Away » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:19 pm

GTStorm wrote:Topic has been up 12 hours and already 12 pages worth of posts.

Compare that to our recurves for indication of what drives interest on this board whether folks want to admit it or not.


I disagree, the folks that post regularly post comments for all the storms. There is much more uncertainty w/ 95L and that is what drives the comments. Their wasn't much uncertainty w/ the recurve storms, we all knew they would be recurves from the beginning and the comments were mostly on how beautiful the storms were. If 95L threatens land of course the board will be popping, but most of the folks here tonight are posting no matter where a storm is. :D

Sorry Luis, I'm done!! :D
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#233 Postby Vortex » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:21 pm

Does anyone know what the Florida State Superensemble indicated...

Source:Wikipedia

For those not familar with this model:


FSSE Florida State Superensemble is a model first used operationally in the 2005 hurricane season and has shown to verify well in tropical cyclone track forecasting. Little is publicly known about this model because the model is owned by a private company which charges for access to the data
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#234 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:25 pm

Looks at that cut-off low the GFS is developing in the Southern plains....that would certainly induce northward motion out of the Western Caribbean....

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#235 Postby SouthFLTropics » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:25 pm

Blown Away wrote:
GTStorm wrote:Topic has been up 12 hours and already 12 pages worth of posts.

Compare that to our recurves for indication of what drives interest on this board whether folks want to admit it or not.


I disagree, the folks that post regularly post comments for all the storms. There is much more uncertainty w/ 95L and that is what drives the comments. Their wasn't much uncertainty w/ the recurve storms, we all knew they would be recurves from the beginning and the comments were mostly on how beautiful the storms were. If 95L threatens land of course the board will be popping, but most of the folks here tonight are posting no matter where a storm is. :D

Sorry Luis, I'm done!! :D



I agree with this statement 100%...

Now as far as the models go I think the 00Z and the 12Z models about three days from now will give us a decent picture of the future of 95L (Matthew). It should be noted that the South Florida news media is already getting their feet wet and setting everyone up for hype mode.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#236 Postby srainhoutx » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:31 pm

johngaltfla wrote:
GTStorm wrote:Topic has been up 12 hours and already 12 pages worth of posts.

Compare that to our recurves for indication of what drives interest on this board whether folks want to admit it or not.


A lot of us remember 04-05....that's why. And this storm if it doesn't fizzle is going to hit someone.


I have to agree. Now back to 95L...
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#237 Postby Vortex » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:34 pm

JMA model...while not really talked about much or seemingly respected does have the system near western cuba at H168. The point is there is a growing strong consensus from guidance that this storm may be very near western cuba in a week...

JMA H168:

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/ ... HIV=0&WMO=
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#238 Postby Vortex » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:38 pm

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#239 Postby Vortex » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:40 pm

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#240 Postby Vortex » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:41 pm

18Z HWRF shows up well here. Notice NNE movement at end


http://hurricane.methaz.org/tracking/st ... ts_wn.html
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