ATL: Ex-Tropical Storm GASTON - Discussion

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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#461 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:15 pm

18z Best Track

AL, 09, 2010090218, , BEST, 0, 135N, 393W, 25, 1009, TD

ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/ ... 010.invest

Remains as TD.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#462 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:19 pm

This is really crawling.

LATCUR = 13.5N LONCUR = 39.3W DIRCUR = 275DEG SPDCUR = 6KT
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#463 Postby hurricaneCW » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:21 pm

Any possibility that the weakening or slow organization can be due to upwelling due to its very slow speed or maybe that it's passing over the upwelled waters of Earl and Danielle. I'm sure the stable/dry air is the main culprit but there could be additional factors to a slow reorganization process.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#464 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:31 pm

SAB Dvorak:

02/1745 UTC 13.4N 39.3W T1.5/2.5 GASTON -- Atlantic
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#465 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:34 pm

hurricaneCW wrote:Any possibility that the weakening or slow organization can be due to upwelling due to its very slow speed or maybe that it's passing over the upwelled waters of Earl and Danielle. I'm sure the stable/dry air is the main culprit but there could be additional factors to a slow reorganization process.


30 knots winds aren't likely to produce upwelling and it's not moving slow enough to produce upwelling.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#466 Postby wxman57 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:36 pm

I can clearly see at least 2 low-level centers rotating around a common point. Same thing we saw with Danielle and Earl during the formative stages. The centers need to consolidate for strengthening to occur.
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#467 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:36 pm

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really struggling today
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#468 Postby StormClouds63 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:49 pm

Like all good Cajuns, Gaston will return ... might have to wait 2-3 days. It will be interesting if the Carolina landfall scenario is a shot in the dark, or if the model runs are going to be consistent with a Caribbean and then Atlantic coast threat. Year of the trough in the Atlantic, at least so far. Displacement/weakness of the ridge saved a lot of lives in the Islands, which otherwise would have had to deal with Danielle and Earl.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#469 Postby ColinDelia » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:31 pm

if I took all the precipitation falling in the past hour from gaston I am not even sure I'd have enough water to make coffee.


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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#470 Postby Brent » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:40 pm

ColinDelia wrote:if I took all the precipitation falling in the past hour from gaston I am not even sure I'd have enough water to make coffee.
http://linkification.com/wx/2010/gaston/shower.jpg


Wow, just hideous.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#471 Postby ColinDelia » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:42 pm

Check out the TUTT on water vapor digging Southwest toward the NE Caribbean

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/flash-wv.html
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#472 Postby Frank2 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:47 pm

In this loop Gaston's LLC (or one of several LLC's) is seen moving north!

A little early for a breakdown in the easterlies, but apparently the high to the north is very weak ATTM:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t3/flash-vis.html

that plus the TUTT = hopefully a hurricane-less Labor Day weekend (USA)...

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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#473 Postby StormClouds63 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:56 pm

ColinDelia wrote:Check out the TUTT on water vapor digging Southwest toward the NE Caribbean

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/flash-wv.html


That might spell the end for Gaston and perhaps the system behind it as well. Atlantic ridge has remained relatively weak ... lots of re-curves and many lives saved in the populated islands of the Caribbean. FWIW, MJO appears to be moving into a favorable phase soon.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#474 Postby dwsqos2 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:59 pm

That upper low is pretty much behaving as progged.
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#475 Postby ColinDelia » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:19 pm

dare I say it? Poof
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#476 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:27 pm

ColinDelia wrote:dare I say it? Poof


The vorticity is gone?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#477 Postby otowntiger » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:28 pm

I don't see how they will be able to keep this thing classified as a depression, so yeah, I think you can say poof, at least for now anyway.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#478 Postby Evil Jeremy » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:38 pm

Dead... for now:

"ALTHOUGH NOT EXPLICITLY INDICATED HERE...THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT
GASTON COULD REGENERATE INTO A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE FORECAST
PERIOD. THIS IS THE SCENARIO THAT IS BEING SUGGESTED BY SOME OF THE
GLOBAL MODELS. "
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression GASTON - Discussion

#479 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:38 pm

The last advisory was written (See advisory thread)
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#480 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:45 pm

Wow to go from a "potential" 85 knot hurricane (this morning's advisory) to
a remnant low in less then 12 hours is pretty darn amazing. May I ask how the
NHC didn't see this coming?
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