ATL: Ex Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

#881 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:03 pm

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BigA wrote:I think that at the altitude the planes are flying the pressure extrapolations are not too accurate. A dropsonde should provide a great reading, though.


Yeah I agree, unlress thats a Dropsonde report of 983mbs I'd not pay any real attention to the estimated pressure from the height that is being flown at, could easily be well out...

What does look to be true is its gfetting better organised and I think an upgrade is quite possible in the next 12-18hrs.


It really is getting better organized.

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

#882 Postby sevenleft » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:06 pm

The NOAA aircraft is flying just a little bit higher than an Air Force hunter would be, 660mb as opposed to 700mb. Those aren't necessarily perfect extrapolations, but usually accurate to within a few millibar.
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#883 Postby KWT » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:11 pm

Well if it is really at 983mbs then the background pressure must be very low at the moment, maybe like what we saw with Alex in terms of pressure-wind relationship.
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#884 Postby supercane » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:17 pm

Latest microwave image:
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

#885 Postby ColinDelia » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:19 pm

Heading into the highest ocean heat content along its path
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#886 Postby KWT » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:23 pm

Still looks flattened on the northern side at the moment, suggests that while strengthening is almost certainly occuring I'm doubtful its rapid over the next 12hrs until it gains a more circular look...once that happens everything is in place for this to become a real noteable hurricane for sure...
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#887 Postby Gustywind » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:24 pm

Orange alert have been required by Meteo-France Guadeloupe for the Nothern Leewards. Whereas, given always Meteo-France, Guadeloupe could also be under an Orange code due to the incertitudes of Earl's path.
We should continue to follow closely Earl and pay attention to dangerous TS Earl during the next 24H. Stay tuned.
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#888 Postby KWT » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:40 pm

Recon is finding surprisingly high winds quite a way out from the system and whilst the conversion rate will be a little different to the slightly higher flight level they are still suggestive of quite a wide region of TS winds on at least the northern side.
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#889 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:41 pm

That is quite low for an intensity of 55 kt (which is what Recon supports right now). Just like I doubt Danielle's pressure is 970mb (that is the standard Dvorak, I estimate it to be in the 950s).
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#890 Postby KWT » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:43 pm

Yeah I was real surprised that recon found it to be at 983mbs, even if its a little off its safe to assume the pressure is somewhere in the region of 985mbs, which is pretty impressive for a 55kts TS...Once it sorts out that flattened northwards section no reason why this one won't strengthening pretty rapidly, can't rule out RI tomorrow IMO.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

#891 Postby Migle » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:47 pm

Really coming together tonight as the split appearance showed earlier today is gone.
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#892 Postby Cryomaniac » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:52 pm

supercane wrote:Latest microwave image:
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Looking pretty good now.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

#893 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:57 pm

This is a panoramic view of the trio in the Atlantic. By far Earl is now the game in town, maybe 97L/TD8/Fiona later steals the show.

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#894 Postby chrisjslucia » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:09 pm

KWT wrote:Recon is finding surprisingly high winds quite a way out from the system and whilst the conversion rate will be a little different to the slightly higher flight level they are still suggestive of quite a wide region of TS winds on at least the northern side.


I would guess this is right as St Lucia has had the same flat, hot conditions reported further North, all today but in the past hour the wind has started to pick up and we are well below the main area of concern tho no one here rules anything out after Ivan's dive south six years ago. I imagine, this is is now the case further North in the Leewards. So, we all here are hoping KWT is still going to have the winning lottery ticket: RECURVE 2010 (KWT - This is the last humorous (attempted anyway) reference I will make to you and the R word!!)
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

#895 Postby hurricanedude » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:31 pm

well, i rarely poke my head out, and post but I live in Va Beach and things may get tense around town real soon!
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#896 Postby Hurrilurker » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:38 pm

The split convection areas are consolidating with cold cloud tops and also notice the outflow starting to puff out on the north side now, which has been repressed.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

#897 Postby HurricaneRobert » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:42 pm

What are the chances for a Long Island Express scenario to happen?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

#898 Postby x-y-no » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:50 pm

HurricaneRobert wrote:What are the chances for a Long Island Express scenario to happen?


Earl would have to go north pretty fast for that to happen, since the trough when it comes will quickly kick him offshore.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

#899 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:50 pm

HurricaneRobert wrote:What are the chances for a Long Island Express scenario to happen?

id give it a 15% chance and if that did happen in any way, you wouldnt see me for a while, but I stll think a last minute curve away is the most likely solution

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

#900 Postby AdamFirst » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:53 pm

Up to 65 MPH this advisory and it's only getting stronger
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