ATL: Ex-Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

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#1301 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:26 am

Actually its looking like its going on track NW. IMO Danielle looks stupidly dangerous with these random convection bursts.
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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1302 Postby Brent » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:49 am

6z best track, winds up to 75 kt, 85 mph, and it's on track NW, not west:

AL, 06, 2010082506, , BEST, 0, 185N, 503W, 75, 982, HU, 64, NEQ, 25, 15, 10, 25, 1010, 240, 20, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, DANIELLE, D,
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#1303 Postby ColinDelia » Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:47 am

Dvorak T4.0/4.0 if no one posted it yet
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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1304 Postby ColinDelia » Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:24 am

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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1305 Postby ColinDelia » Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:26 am

Divergence and convergence
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#1306 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:03 am

Still might be quite close to Bermuda but we will see...given its moving NW now confidence is increasing that this will go east of Bermuda but we will see!

Lets see how this one works out, looks like its still a little ragged IMO...
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#1307 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:20 am

By the way does anybody know whether recon may head into this storm?

Its just that it may get close enough to Bermuda to require recon to fly in given they are in the cone right now?
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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1308 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:55 am

I am wondering if convection may struggle a bit due to what looks like a convective cap as shown on the latest core-temp profile.

In the boundary-layer, there is a temperature increase from the surface to 2km.

Cloudsat is showing a high cirrus canopy topping out at about 150mb, a little above 15km.

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#1309 Postby O Town » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:10 am

Looking a lot better this a.m. than it did before bed last night. Cloud tops
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#1310 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:26 am

Hmmm structure still seems to be lacking somewhat though from the looks of things, esp with regards to the inner core...needs to change if we are to see much strengthening IMO...but we will see!
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#1311 Postby Aquawind » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:30 am

According to the models it will have plenty of time for change in direction and strength. :uarrow:
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#1312 Postby ColinDelia » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:33 am

Interesting analysis, GCANE.

How high does one typically see cirrus clouds without a "convective cap"?

Any additional explanation appreciated.
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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1313 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:41 am

If the convective cap goes away and cumulus nimbus cells erupt, anything that shoots over the cirrus canopy will be a hot tower.

I'll be looking for that on VIS today.

CAPE has improved a lot since yesterday.

It seems to be wrapping in from the east.

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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1314 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:58 am

Actually, there seems to be an overshooting top at 19.5N 51W.

So, with the cirrus at this height, that would be a hot-tower.

Being very close to the LLC, that should help to intensify her.

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#1315 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:07 am

Aquawind wrote:According to the models it will have plenty of time for change in direction and strength. :uarrow:


Nah the models have been in solid agreement of the broad evolution for a long time now, no reason not to believe what they prog will be right given its followed the broad track pretty closely so far.
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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1316 Postby hurricaneCW » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:11 am

Looks like a no threat storm yet again, not to mention a rather weak, organized one at that. If it's going to be a fish storm, it might as well be a strong one, but we can't even get that.
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#1317 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:14 am

Hardly HCW...its a hurricane for goodness sake forecasted to get close to major status!

Whilst this may not be the cat-5 you wanted, truth is this is still light years better then any of the rubbish we had since Alex...
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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1318 Postby somethingfunny » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:18 am

hurricaneCW wrote:Looks like a no threat storm yet again, not to mention a rather weak, organized one at that. If it's going to be a fish storm, it might as well be a strong one, but we can't even get that.


Are you okay? Your writing style is like an obituary for Danielle. At least it's organized eh? :spam:

I cringe a little bit every time I scroll through a thread and see you've posted again.

If you think Danielle is finished, has no possibility of being a major or a land threat, is doomed to be even lamer than Colin or almost as lame as Bonnie, then please STOP FOLLOWING IT!
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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1319 Postby Buck » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:22 am

hurricaneCW wrote:Looks like a no threat storm yet again, not to mention a rather weak, organized one at that. If it's going to be a fish storm, it might as well be a strong one, but we can't even get that.


Bermuda is well in the cone.
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Re: ATL : Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

#1320 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:27 am

Microwave seems to indicate eyewall rebuilding, right now on the north quad.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... layIR.html

Getting some high topped cells firing around the LLC.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-ft.html
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