ATL: Ex-Hurricane DANIELLE - Discussion

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#121 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:47 pm

Hmmm ok something that is a little worrying now to me, the models were rather too quick to shot this westwards and if this system does struggle for the next 24-48hrs with its multiple circulations it may not move very far...and if that happens obviously it gives it time...
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Re: ATL : INVEST 95L - DISCUSSION

#122 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:53 pm

it gives it time...


The oportunity for a trough to lift northward and a ridge to establish firmly if it continues to move slowly.
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#123 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:54 pm

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Re: ATL : INVEST 95L - DISCUSSION

#124 Postby ColinDelia » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:57 pm

850 mb vorticity. 1,2,3...

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#125 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:58 pm

Will be interesting to see how easily it manages to pull it all together, its a broad mess for now though its not having any problem with regards developing circulations!
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#126 Postby pepeavilenho » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:00 pm

I don't like this situation of those two mesovortex.....I have to agree with KWT.... :cold:

BUT, GFS has been very consistent with its track, more than euro....Maybe a pont in favour to be a fishy system, but, who knows! :?: :eek:
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Re: ATL : INVEST 95L - DISCUSSION

#127 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:01 pm

If we took the GFS a couple days ago, we would already have Danielle by now. Still looks like it will be a couple days away, which is why I'm not sold on the fish solution.
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#128 Postby Vortex » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:09 pm

I've not been able to analyze the 12z ECM...Were there any major differences from the 00z run?
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Re: ATL : INVEST 95L - DISCUSSION

#129 Postby pepeavilenho » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:10 pm

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#130 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:10 pm

Vortex wrote:I've not been able to analyze the 12z ECM...Were there any major differences from the 00z run?


Lol about a 180 turn :wink:

Ridging as far as the eye can see.
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#131 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:20 pm

Ivanhater wrote:If we took the GFS a couple days ago, we would already have Danielle by now. Still looks like it will be a couple days away, which is why I'm not sold on the fish solution.


I think the Vort that developed to the east of 95L today has slowed it right down but that system is now weakening and about to throw some storms towards the CV Islands. 95L's central Vort still looks like its heading westwards, lets see how the forecast from the PREDICT team goes...they call for it to be at 15N by 60hrs.

I suspect tonight we go cherry and to 60% but we will see!
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Re: ATL : INVEST 95L - DISCUSSION

#132 Postby StormClouds63 » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:27 pm

Looks like a 3 amigos scenario ... unusual for sure. Consolidation will take time. Maybe Danielle by Monday. Nothing for certain in 2010, but this may be the closest we've had to a sure thing. Re-curve still probable if this does indeed develop into a named system.
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#133 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:37 pm

If you take a look at the loop above and the big picture you can see the middle vortex is just starting to become the dominant one, I suspect thing will continue to slowly organise over the next 24hrs.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 95L - DISCUSSION

#134 Postby sunnyday » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:41 pm

Do I understand correctly that there needs to be a "cooling off of the US continent" before a sizeable hurricane can form and come toward the US? Joe Bastardi explained today that he feels that there will be a lot of storms when that happens.
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#135 Postby dixiebreeze » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:03 pm

KWT wrote:If you take a look at the loop above and the big picture you can see the middle vortex is just starting to become the dominant one, I suspect thing will continue to slowly organise over the next 24hrs.


Yep. 20/1745 UTC 10.9N 26.0W T1.0/1.0 95L -- Atlantic
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Re: ATL : INVEST 95L - DISCUSSION

#136 Postby MiamiHurricanes10 » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:21 pm

"The 12z ECMWF ensembles show the major disagreements within the members, illustrated by the pink colors, which has the storm anywhere from Miami to Bermuda or further east by Day 10. The potential for nearly anything is there at this point, and again, neither recurvature nor landfall somewhere can be ruled out. A wary eye should be kept on this storm by the folks on the eastern seaboard just in case."

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#138 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:54 pm

Ohhhh we have a TCFA. I personally suspect development will happen on the backend of that tiemframe but we will see...
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#139 Postby MiamiHurricanes10 » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:15 pm

KWT wrote:Ohhhh we have a TCFA. I personally suspect development will happen on the backend of that tiemframe but we will see...

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#140 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:17 pm

Ah actually scrap that I misread the image above lol, sorry! :roll:
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