ATL: Ex INVEST 93L - Discussion

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#201 Postby supercane » Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:46 am

First Dvorak classification for 93L not supportive for upgrade per SSD:

DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
08/0545 UTC 20.3N 42.4W TOO WEAK 93L
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#202 Postby supercane » Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:54 am

6Z best track from ATCF:

AL, 93, 2010080718, , BEST, 0, 198N, 398W, 25, 1011, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1015, 150, 60, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 93, 2010080800, , BEST, 0, 210N, 409W, 25, 1011, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1015, 150, 60, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 93, 2010080806, , BEST, 0, 219N, 420W, 25, 1011, DB, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1015, 150, 60, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
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#203 Postby WeatherGuesser » Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:11 am

Seems like a good week for fishing in the central Atlantic.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L - DISCUSSION

#204 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:26 am

A Tropical Cyclone Formation Alert has been issued.

SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION ALERT//
WTNT21 KNGU 080400
RMKS/1. FORMATION OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE IS POSSIBLE
WITHIN 150 NM EITHER SIDE OF A LINE FROM 21.0N 41.0W TO 26.0N
49.5W WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. AVAILABLE DATA DOES NOT
JUSTIFY ISSUANCE OF NUMBERED TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNINGS AT THIS
TIME. WINDS IN THE AREA ARE ESTIMATED TO BE 20 TO 30 KNOTS.
METSAT IMAGERY AT 080000Z INDICATES THAT A CIRCULATION CENTER IS
LOCATED NEAR 21.1N 41.0W. THE SYSTEM IS MOVING NORTHWESTWARD
AT 15 KNOTS.
2. A TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED JUST 1050NM WEST-NORTHWEST OF THE CAPE
VERDE ISLAND IS SLOWLY MOVING NORTHWEST AT APPROXIMATELY 15 KTS.
AT 08/0000Z INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATED AN AREA OF
CONVECTION THAT HAS PERSISTED FOR THE PAST 24 HOURS. THE SAHARAN
AIR LAYER LOCATED NORTHWEST OF THE SYSTEM HAS SIGNIFICANTLY DE-
CREASED IN STRENGTH OVER THE PAST 12 HOURS PRODUCING FAVORABLE
CONDITIONS. THIS SYSTEM IS IN AN AREA OF LOW WIND SHEAR, UPPER
LEVEL ANTI-CYCLONIC OUTFLOW AND WARM SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURE OF
83 TO 86 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT, HELPING TO ENHANCE THE DEVELOPMENT
OF THIS TROPICAL FEATURE.
3. THIS ALERT WILL BE VALID UNTIL 090400Z.//

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#205 Postby ColinDelia » Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:41 am

Buoy about 1 degree Northwest of the center.
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=13002

Winds currently NE at 12 kts

(Wrong buoy. See below)
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#206 Postby AJC3 » Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:49 am

ColinDelia wrote:Buoy about 1 degree Northwest of the center.
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=13002

Winds currently NE at 12 kts


The NDBC site says that buoy is at 21N 23W.
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#207 Postby ColinDelia » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:05 am

AJC3 wrote:
ColinDelia wrote:Buoy about 1 degree Northwest of the center.
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=13002

Winds currently NE at 12 kts


The NDBC site says that buoy is at 21N 23W.


Oops. My bad. CIMSS shows some buoy NW of there but i made out the numbers wrong. Still can't read it
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L - DISCUSSION

#208 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:53 am

Still at 60%.

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT SUN AUG 8 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON TROPICAL
STORM COLIN...LOCATED ABOUT 90 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF BERMUDA.

SHOWER ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH A LOW PRESSURE AREA LOCATED ABOUT
1250 MILES EAST-NORTHEAST OF THE LEEWARD ISLANDS REMAINS LIMITED.
HOWEVER...ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR GENERALLY FAVORABLE FOR A
TROPICAL DEPRESSION TO FORM DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS THE
SYSTEM MOVES TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST AT 10 TO 15 MPH. THERE IS A
HIGH CHANCE...60 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL
CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

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FORECASTER BLAKE/BROWN

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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L - DISCUSSION

#209 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:37 am

Its easy to track as the center is exposed to the SW of convection.

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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L - DISCUSSION

#210 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:02 am

12z Best Track

AL, 93, 2010080812, , BEST, 0, 228N, 437W, 25, 1011, DB

ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/ ... 010.invest
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#211 Postby wxman57 » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:40 am

It looks more impressive than Colin...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#212 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:52 am

It was going to be Danielle as it was a sure bet a couple of days ago but the shear continues to play tricks with the season.Let's see if it goes down to then allow this system to develop into a Tropical Cyclone.
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#213 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:01 am

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Still looks better than TD #2
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#214 Postby hurricaneCW » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:18 am

Perhaps we won't see Danielle from this system after all. Nice LLC, but not much else. Too much dry air interfering with development.
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#215 Postby HurrMark » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:55 am

Yeah...I think yesterday would have been the day. Development looks unlikely now. Yet another system this year that needed one more "oomph" to get over the top, but just didn't get it.
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#216 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:05 am

Give it some more time it clearly has a closed circulation but is struggling with dry air...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#217 Postby MiamiHurricanes10 » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:11 am

RGB satellite imagery clearly depicts that the surface circulation associated with 93L is closed. I assume that the only reason that the NHC is not upgrading this is due to the lack of convection, thus the low satellite estimates from TAFB and SAB. We shall see...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t3/flash-rgb.html
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#218 Postby MiamiHurricanes10 » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:22 am

MIMIC-TPW shows a well-defined center about 93L.

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#219 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:03 am

In all honesty it is a depression... no reason it could not be upgraded...
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#220 Postby supercane » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:25 am

Earlier ASCAT couldn't close a circulation:

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