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#601 Postby Vortex » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:45 am

From NWS San Juan this morning. They expect TUTT to weaken during the wak and drfit NW...Interesting...





PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 531 AM AST MON AUG 2 2010/

SYNOPSIS...A TUTT LOW NORTHEAST OF PUERTO RICO WILL DRIFT
NORTHWEST AND WEAKEN DURING THE WEEK WHILE A RIDGE BUILDS OVER THE
AREA. THE RIDGE WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE WEEKEND UNTIL ANOTHER
TUTT MOVES INTO PLACE NORTHEAST OF THE LOCAL AREA.
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#602 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:46 am

Vortex wrote:appears to be moving slightly North of due west last several hours at clip around 20mph....IMO I would not be surprised and to an extent I expect this system too come trough the area from the middle Leeward islands North...I think it will be moving to quickly to develop much and I now think its reasonable to expect a passage either side of Guadeloupe probably as a TD at worst with some squally weather/gusty winds...


Dean became a major hurricane at 25kts forward speed, whilst it is an issue for developing systems once you do have a closed low that becomes established the forward speed issue becomes less important, of course for minimal system its still a factor but not the be all of course.

Besides, 20mph really isn't *that* quick, seen many many systems develop nicely at that speed.
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#603 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:47 am

this is going to be a annoying systems... lol
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#604 Postby CajunMama » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:48 am

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#605 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:51 am

Thanks for the post about the TUTT Vortex, I wonder what they'd think if they saw the GFS...I think the GFS though must hold the TUTT in place, and given its sat there for 2 months and its been forecasted to weaken for months now, I've gotta go with the idea it'll still be the main player in the region to be honest, esp given its so powerful right now.
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Re: ATL : Tropical Depression Four - DISCUSSION

#606 Postby cperez1594 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:01 pm

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Intresting????
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Re: ATL : Tropical Depression Four - DISCUSSION

#607 Postby vbhoutex » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:09 pm

:uarrow: Very interesting if the steering holds. With that I don't see it being able to gain much latitude in the near term.
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#608 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:09 pm

cmc is much weaker and way south ..
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Re: ATL : Tropical Depression Four - DISCUSSION

#609 Postby expat2carib » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:13 pm

Too much interesting :x This explains why the motion is almost due west. I'm on a boat 13.75N 60.95W. Go fish dear TD#4
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#610 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:15 pm

Im not sure about this wnw motion they are talking about... its nearly due west..
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Re: ATL : Tropical Depression Four - DISCUSSION

#611 Postby JTE50 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:20 pm

Last I heard BP was going forward with the static top kill tonight. I don't think they would be going forward with this if there was a good chance TD4 was Gulf bound.
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Re: ATL : Tropical Depression Four - DISCUSSION

#612 Postby Gustywind » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:22 pm

vbhoutex wrote::uarrow: Very interesting if the steering holds. With that I don't see it being able to gain much latitude in the near term.

:roll: hope that this a short trend... :oops:
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#613 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:23 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Im not sure about this wnw motion they are talking about... its nearly due west..


I think its because of the relocation of the center earlier in the morning to 12.5N, but the actual motion is probably about 280 at the moment, location just to the south of 13N right now I reckon.

Does need to be watched in the Islands for sure...
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#614 Postby AJC3 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:25 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Im not sure about this wnw motion they are talking about... its nearly due west..


WNW is simply a function of average a longer term motion/propagation during the formative process. Little doubt that there the shorter term motion is more westward (a little north of due west) and at a faster forward speed...looks closer to 20kt than 15kt...perhaps even a kt or two above 20.
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#615 Postby jhpigott » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:25 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:cmc is much weaker and way south ..


execpt until is emerges into the Bahamas and then looks to deepen

12Z CMC

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.c ... =Animation

how strong is the CMC showing TD4 in that last frame (144hr)? Looks like a potential SE FL threat. Looks like a trend back to the west
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#616 Postby Gustywind » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:26 pm

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#617 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:28 pm

AJC3 wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Im not sure about this wnw motion they are talking about... its nearly due west..


WNW is simply a function of average a longer term motion/propagation during the formative process. Little doubt that there the shorter term motion is more westward (a little north of due west) and at a faster forward speed...looks closer to 20kt than 15kt.


yeah figured it was more of a formative motion. but also figured they would adjust for it.. thanks for the clarification.. :)
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Re: ATL : Tropical Depression Four - DISCUSSION

#618 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:30 pm

Loop: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... mframes=10

What is all the flak being ejected to the north? Mid level shear?
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Re: ATL : Tropical Depression Four - DISCUSSION

#619 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:34 pm

tolakram wrote:Loop: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... mframes=10

What is all the flak being ejected to the north? Mid level shear?


well its stable air clouds forming around the system due to some SAL
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