ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION BONNIE - DISCUSSION

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#2761 Postby tina25 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:59 am

So far most of the rain bands are north of Naples.
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#2762 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:06 am

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Landfall was on Cutler Bay, FL, 12 miles SSE of where I live!

Pressure got down to 1009.1 mb, rising now.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2763 Postby tolakram » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:08 am

Looks to be falling apart now.

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#2764 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:09 am

IMO I think Bonnie does have a better chance in the GOM to strenghthen.
Now that doesn't mean it will happen but the possibility is there.
Right now she is doing a decent job of hanging on while a lot of her circulation
is over land. What I think will be interesting is when she slows down (per the NHC)
somewhat as she approaches the coast for her second landfall. This is when the window of opportunity may present itself for some strengthening. Now all of this could be a mute point if the ULL rips her apart once she enters the GOM. We shall see.


ConvergenceZone wrote:If it hasn't got stronger yet, I don't think it will get stronger once it enters the gulf. It's had plenty of opportunity, and while the shear might be slightly less in the gulf, most models are showing that it will still be there.
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#2765 Postby Frank2 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:10 am

SURFACE...RADAR AND AIRCRAFT OBSERVATIONS INDICATE THAT AT 1100 AM
EDT...1500 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM BONNIE MADE LANDFALL
IN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY NEAR CUTLER BAY WITH ESTIMATED WINDS OF 40
MPH...65 KM/HR.


...almost in the same spot as Andrew, way back in 1992 (below photo taken of the Dadeland mobile home park, 3 miles SW of my house at the time of Andrew - now you know):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hurri ... a_2563.jpg
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#2766 Postby Vortmax1 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:16 am

A horrible reminder of what CAN happen Frank.

Allow me to rephrase that please:

A reminder of how terrifying and deadly Hurricanes can be.
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#2767 Postby Steve » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:26 am

>>Could that upper-level low simply absorb Bonnie and become a new system?

It's not going to form a new system in this case, but that happens sometimes with storms in the Western Atlantic, where you have an upper feature that "ingests" a surface feature which sometimes results in hybrid and or partially warm core features that are often stronger than either the original tropical system and the upper system. It was the old JB "Napoleon Blownaparte" type system.
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#2768 Postby rockyman » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:30 am

Models vs. Reality:

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#2769 Postby Frank2 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:31 am

Vortmax1,

That's right - I evacuated the night before up to my sister's house in Palm Beach County, went back to my house 48 hours later to find half the roof gone and that the bedroom had become part of the backyard, and returned to my sister's house that evening looking as if I'd seen a ghost - as my sister-in-law said (they lived in Melbourne at the time), they could tell the "Andrew people" because they all had the same glassy look in their eyes - me too...

Frank

P.S. Back to Bonnie (oops)...
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#2770 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:36 am

Hanging in there and expanding somewhat as the circulation begins to enter the GOM.

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... uration=12
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#2771 Postby lester » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:38 am

Looks like recon evidence is enough to keep it a ts for now..
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#2772 Postby Vortmax1 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:39 am

they could tell the "Andrew people" because they all had the same glassy look in their eyes



I know. I saw a lot of "those" faces. I never want to see that again.
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#2773 Postby JtSmarts » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:41 am

Stormcenter wrote:Hanging in there and expanding somewhat as the circulation begins to enter the GOM.



She's not the healthiest little thing but I've seen stronger storms that looked worse. She does remind me of her 2004 predecessor with her small ball of convection. I think as long as she keeps that compact ball she has chance to at least remain a weak to moderate TS.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2774 Postby ROCK » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:47 am

wouldnt it be cool if she wrapped all the way around the ULL.. :lol: ...now that would be something.....BTW- I have never seen a TS imbedded in a huge ULL's signature such as this...see it all now....
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#2775 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:48 am

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looks weaker
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#2776 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:53 am

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becoming exposed
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#2777 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:54 am

looks weaker


Yes, they just mentioned on the weather that it's becomming increasingly questionable whether or not Bonnie is going to survive, or just open back up to a wave bringing some rain across the gulf states. I guess it's just a wait and see situation....
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#2778 Postby Vortmax1 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:54 am

Where I am this has been a non-event.
I'm hoping to get at least a portion of the blob over the Bahamas later.
But even that looks iffy right now:


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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - DISCUSSION

#2779 Postby RachelAnna » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:55 am

It'll be back over water by this evening, correct? Wonder if she'll be able to pull it back together a bit once she's entirely over water again. Thoughts?
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#2780 Postby Vortmax1 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:58 am

Wonder if she'll be able to pull it back together a bit once she's entirely over water again. Thoughts?



It doesn't look too promising to me for re-strengthening. Maybe slightly but the environment is hostile.
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