ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION BONNIE - MODELS

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Re: ATL : INVEST 97L - MODELS

#501 Postby redfish1 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:53 pm

i think we are going to start seeing the models shift to the west from this point on....just my opinion
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#502 Postby lebron23 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:59 pm

HWRF GFDL shift west.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 97L - MODELS

#503 Postby ROCK » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:59 pm

not to mention this is going to clip Cuba and the Keys....look at the motion due west...no one seems to notice.... :wink:
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#504 Postby ROCK » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:00 pm

lebron23 wrote:HWRF GFDL shift west.



they will until the EURO shifts right if it ever does....
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#505 Postby rockyman » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:00 pm

18z CMC Regional (shifts a little north):

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#506 Postby rockyman » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:03 pm

18z HWRF landfalls on MS Coast (VERY weak):

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#507 Postby thetruesms » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:04 pm

lebron23 wrote:HWRF GFDL shift west.
It's about time Image
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#508 Postby rockyman » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:06 pm

18z GFDL--Miami then LA/MS area:
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Re: ATL : INVEST 97L - MODELS

#509 Postby SFLcane » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:08 pm

another view at the 18z model plots...

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#510 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:10 pm

Once again models weaken this after landfall and keep it weak and in fact maybe even weakening further...looks like the models must be seeing a new burst of shear in the Gulf...
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#511 Postby floridasun78 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:21 pm

how strong as ts before fl do model have with new runs?
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Re: ATL : INVEST 97L - MODELS

#512 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:53 pm

00z Tropical Model Suite

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TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
0038 UTC THU JUL 22 2010
 
DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.
 
ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR
 
DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL972010) 20100722 0000 UTC
 
        ...00 HRS...   ...12 HRS...   ...24 HRS. ..   ...36 HRS...
        100722  0000   100722  1200   100723  0000   100723  1200
 
         LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON
BAMS    21.4N  72.8W   21.9N  75.7W   22.5N  77.9W   23.3N  80.3W
BAMD    21.4N  72.8W   22.3N  74.8W   23.4N  77.3W   24.7N  80.3W
BAMM    21.4N  72.8W   21.9N  75.1W   22.8N  77.3W   23.9N  79.8W
LBAR    21.4N  72.8W   22.1N  75.3W   23.1N  77.8W   24.2N  80.6W
SHIP        30KTS          31KTS          35KTS          39KTS
DSHP        30KTS          31KTS          35KTS          39KTS
 
        ...48 HRS...   ...72 HRS...   ...96 HRS. ..   ..120 HRS...
        100724  0000   100725  0000   100726  0000   100727  0000
 
         LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON
BAMS    24.4N  82.3W   26.5N  86.4W   28.3N  90.4W   30.5N  93.8W
BAMD    26.1N  83.6W   29.3N  89.8W   32.4N  93.5W   35.4N  95.5W
BAMM    25.1N  82.3W   27.5N  87.3W   29.6N  91.4W   32.3N  94.5W
LBAR    25.5N  83.4W   28.9N  88.2W   32.7N  90.2W   36.0N  87.4W
SHIP        42KTS          47KTS          52KTS          55KTS
DSHP        42KTS          47KTS          42KTS          29KTS
 
         ...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR =  21.4N LONCUR =  72.8W DIRCUR = 285DEG SPDCUR =  12KT
LATM12 =  20.7N LONM12 =  70.1W DIRM12 = 294DEG SPDM12 =  12KT
LATM24 =  19.8N LONM24 =  68.2W
WNDCUR =   30KT RMAXWD =   60NM WNDM12 =   30KT
CENPRS = 1009MB OUTPRS = 1014MB OUTRAD =  150NM SDEPTH =   M
RD34NE =    0NM RD34SE =    0NM RD34SW =    0NM RD34NW =   0NM
 

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Re: ATL : INVEST 97L - MODELS

#513 Postby redfish1 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:06 pm

i think this is going to be a texas or louisiana storm
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Re: ATL : INVEST 97L - MODELS

#514 Postby ericinmia » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:08 pm

redfish1 wrote:i think this is going to be a texas or louisiana storm


Reasoning? :double:
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Re: ATL : INVEST 97L - MODELS

#515 Postby redfish1 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:10 pm

ericinmia wrote:
redfish1 wrote:i think this is going to be a texas or louisiana storm


Reasoning? :double:


it has not gained much strength and the models are starting to see that and plus it is still moving on a westerly path
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Re: ATL : INVEST 97L - MODELS

#516 Postby ROCK » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:25 pm

I wouldnt go all the way to Texas with it but the EURO has been hinting about it all week.....so it cant be discounted.....the model are finally seeing what the EURO is seeing.... a sheared mess with an ULL right in front of it across the GOM....all this talk about its looking better...ULL is weakening, its moving away...yada yada...nice to make assumptions based on sat views but at some point you have got to put some guidance in with it....anyway JMO....
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Re: ATL : INVEST 97L - MODELS

#517 Postby ROCK » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:31 pm

12z EURO from a different perspective. not great resolution but this was the only way you could see the progression across the GOM...

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... 112!!step/
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Re: ATL : INVEST 97L - MODELS

#518 Postby redfish1 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:33 pm

ROCK wrote:12z EURO from a different perspective. not great resolution but this was the only way you could see the progression across the GOM...

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... 112!!step/


i could not pull it up...whats it showing???
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Re: ATL : INVEST 97L - MODELS

#519 Postby ROCK » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:41 pm

redfish1 wrote:
ROCK wrote:12z EURO from a different perspective. not great resolution but this was the only way you could see the progression across the GOM...

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... 112!!step/


i could not pull it up...whats it showing???



just showing what it has been showing for days now....same path...weak...try this link..play with it until you get north america

http://www.ecmwf.int/
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#520 Postby brunota2003 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:50 pm

>>> 18z HWRF landfalls on MS Coast (VERY weak) <<<

That actually looks like it is either a nontropical low pressure area, or at best, a subtropical depression making landfall. Strongest winds shifted wayyy to the NE of the circulation center in the image, with nothing over/to the NW/W/SW/S of the center.
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